Anonymous
08/18/2016 18:14
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
Are there any common goals? Any sandwich? If not that is pretty messed up.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 18:10
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
This works well for my spouse and I as we split up chores and obligations. If there are a couple of kids to get to bed, lunch to be packed, and dinner to clean up...it behooves me as the initiator to divide the choices evenly. Do you want 5yo and pack lunch, or do you want 1yo and clean dishes? This means I would be happy with either outcome he chooses.
It works so well, how can this be applied to politics: congress, reaching across the aisle, getting stuff done?
You're assuming everyone is ethical and follows rules.
It's a very simple analogy based on the premise that you each want the same thing - a share of the sandwich that is as close to half as possible. What if you hated the crust and wanted it cut off?
But, to apply it to more current politics, what if your husband's job of cutting (and his corresponding ability to eat) were an elected position, and those who elected him felt like they should get the whole sandwich and you deserve nothing, an if your husband were to attempt to compromise by giving you a share of the sandwich he would risk having them elect someone in his place who would refuse to share the sandwich?
damn! You gave a lot of thought to this analogy.
kudos!
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:27
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
OP, I would want to ensure that the peanut butter is USDA certified organic as required by section a, paragraph 2 of the DCUM code of sandwiches. Also, confirm that it was manufactured with peanuts grown in Georgia as I had promised my friend the Congressman from Athens in exchange for his vote on the jelly requirements last year. I realize this will push the cost over our approved budget and, therefore, the size of the sandwich will have to be reduced by 20%. But, if we purchase bread slices that are 20% smaller at the original contracted price of full-sized pieces, I've been told there will be a couple of nice cookies waiting for us complements of the baker. No need to tell the kids about that.
But, assuming this is all true, sure, go ahead and slice.
That's awesome. I'm OP btw. Good stuff above.
Hey, I'm not so naive. It just seems so simple, and we do this all the time. I often think there has to be some game theory that will force a little reconciliation in this country.
The analogy is missing a few variables. In politics, the 5-year old gets to vote for which parent is in charge and what the household priorities are, and picks a parent who offers ice cream and no bed-time. Then when the kid is tired and has a tummy-ache the next morning and no dishes have been washed and the one-year-old is crying for a diaper change, you are voted back in to clean up the mess. Now how cooperative are you going to be with the ice cream parent?
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:01
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
OP, I would want to ensure that the peanut butter is USDA certified organic as required by section a, paragraph 2 of the DCUM code of sandwiches. Also, confirm that it was manufactured with peanuts grown in Georgia as I had promised my friend the Congressman from Athens in exchange for his vote on the jelly requirements last year. I realize this will push the cost over our approved budget and, therefore, the size of the sandwich will have to be reduced by 20%. But, if we purchase bread slices that are 20% smaller at the original contracted price of full-sized pieces, I've been told there will be a couple of nice cookies waiting for us complements of the baker. No need to tell the kids about that.
But, assuming this is all true, sure, go ahead and slice.
That's awesome. I'm OP btw. Good stuff above.
Hey, I'm not so naive. It just seems so simple, and we do this all the time. I often think there has to be some game theory that will force a little reconciliation in this country.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 10:59
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
What about the possibility of dividing issues?
You get X support for environmental concerns, we get X support for defense budget concerns.
You get X support for federal nondiscrimination statutes, we get X for border protection.
Or something like that.
You get X support for environmental concerns, we get X support for defense budget concerns.
You get X support for federal nondiscrimination statutes, we get X for border protection.
Or something like that.
jsteele
08/18/2016 10:57
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
Anonymous wrote:You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
OP, I would want to ensure that the peanut butter is USDA certified organic as required by section a, paragraph 2 of the DCUM code of sandwiches. Also, confirm that it was manufactured with peanuts grown in Georgia as I had promised my friend the Congressman from Athens in exchange for his vote on the jelly requirements last year. I realize this will push the cost over our approved budget and, therefore, the size of the sandwich will have to be reduced by 20%. But, if we purchase bread slices that are 20% smaller at the original contracted price of full-sized pieces, I've been told there will be a couple of nice cookies waiting for us complements of the baker. No need to tell the kids about that.
But, assuming this is all true, sure, go ahead and slice.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 10:48
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
Anonymous wrote:You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
This works well for my spouse and I as we split up chores and obligations. If there are a couple of kids to get to bed, lunch to be packed, and dinner to clean up...it behooves me as the initiator to divide the choices evenly. Do you want 5yo and pack lunch, or do you want 1yo and clean dishes? This means I would be happy with either outcome he chooses.
It works so well, how can this be applied to politics: congress, reaching across the aisle, getting stuff done?
Uhh, maybe because some things in the world are a bit more complex than dividing a sandwich for a 5 year old?
Anonymous
08/18/2016 10:40
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
This works well for my spouse and I as we split up chores and obligations. If there are a couple of kids to get to bed, lunch to be packed, and dinner to clean up...it behooves me as the initiator to divide the choices evenly. Do you want 5yo and pack lunch, or do you want 1yo and clean dishes? This means I would be happy with either outcome he chooses.
It works so well, how can this be applied to politics: congress, reaching across the aisle, getting stuff done?
You're assuming everyone is ethical and follows rules.
It's a very simple analogy based on the premise that you each want the same thing - a share of the sandwich that is as close to half as possible. What if you hated the crust and wanted it cut off?
But, to apply it to more current politics, what if your husband's job of cutting (and his corresponding ability to eat) were an elected position, and those who elected him felt like they should get the whole sandwich and you deserve nothing, an if your husband were to attempt to compromise by giving you a share of the sandwich he would risk having them elect someone in his place who would refuse to share the sandwich?
Anonymous
08/18/2016 10:27
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
Anonymous wrote:You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
This works well for my spouse and I as we split up chores and obligations. If there are a couple of kids to get to bed, lunch to be packed, and dinner to clean up...it behooves me as the initiator to divide the choices evenly. Do you want 5yo and pack lunch, or do you want 1yo and clean dishes? This means I would be happy with either outcome he chooses.
It works so well, how can this be applied to politics: congress, reaching across the aisle, getting stuff done?
You're assuming everyone is ethical and follows rules.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 10:18
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
???
Politicians are not working with their own resources.
They are working with other people's money and have the ability to spend that money at will, including paying themselves with that money and cresting opportunities for themselves to make inddcent amount of money using other's resources.
Politicians are not working with their own resources.
They are working with other people's money and have the ability to spend that money at will, including paying themselves with that money and cresting opportunities for themselves to make inddcent amount of money using other's resources.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 10:15
Subject: Politics peanut butter and jelly
You have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Or sunbutter and strawberries on gluten free bread. Whatever.
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
This works well for my spouse and I as we split up chores and obligations. If there are a couple of kids to get to bed, lunch to be packed, and dinner to clean up...it behooves me as the initiator to divide the choices evenly. Do you want 5yo and pack lunch, or do you want 1yo and clean dishes? This means I would be happy with either outcome he chooses.
It works so well, how can this be applied to politics: congress, reaching across the aisle, getting stuff done?
You're dividing it between two people. How to do this fairly?
One person cuts in half, and the other person chooses.
This incentivizes the first person to cut as fairly as possible.
This works well for my spouse and I as we split up chores and obligations. If there are a couple of kids to get to bed, lunch to be packed, and dinner to clean up...it behooves me as the initiator to divide the choices evenly. Do you want 5yo and pack lunch, or do you want 1yo and clean dishes? This means I would be happy with either outcome he chooses.
It works so well, how can this be applied to politics: congress, reaching across the aisle, getting stuff done?