Anonymous
08/01/2016 11:11
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Anonymous wrote:I don't recall any beheadings nor did I hear of any gay people being thrown off buildings while Pence governed. I guess that's what distinguishes him from ISIS.
Not for lack of trying. Those who shout loudest about "sharia law!" seem to be the ones who most desperately want this country to become a Christian theocracy. For example: defend his loony anti-abortion law.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 10:42
Subject: Pence's self-identification
takoma wrote:Was anyone else bothered when, in accepting the nomination for VP, Mike Pence declared that above all else, he is a Christian. This despite the fact that the Constitution states "but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." I have no quarrel with the fact that Christianity is an important part of his life, but it bothers me greatly that he considers it relevant to his candidacy for a public office. I must admit, though, that I am not surprised, since his stand on every social issue seems to be dictated by a fundamentalist reading of the Bible.
How does this differ from Iran or ISIS being governed by sharia law?
Not bothered at all that he is a Christian but if he enforces his views, that is a problem.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 06:39
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Anonymous wrote:I don't recall any beheadings nor did I hear of any gay people being thrown off buildings while Pence governed. I guess that's what distinguishes him from ISIS.
Exactly.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 06:38
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Democrats have a big tent - everyone's welcome from atheists to evangelicals to Muslims to Buddhists and Jews, as well as any other faith.
Yes, because that's their vision - and the Founders' vision - for the United States. Today's Republicans, on the other hand, seem to want to limit the United States to only white Christians.
Good example of ignorance. Sad.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 06:38
Subject: Pence's self-identification
I don't recall any beheadings nor did I hear of any gay people being thrown off buildings while Pence governed. I guess that's what distinguishes him from ISIS.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 06:34
Subject: Re:Pence's self-identification
I fear politicians with God complexes. Kasich comes to mind. Crazy.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 06:31
Subject: Re:Pence's self-identification
OP, he is expressing what guides him as a person.
Some may not be comfortable with this whether because they don't wear their religion on their sleeve or because they are not sure how that would impact his views on governing the country. If that is the case, and it is a deal breaker, then don't vote for him.
There are others - especially evangelical Christians - who would view it as having a moral compass and would be more inclined to vote for him.
But as a prior pp said politicians from both parties invoke God when it suits their purpose.
Some may not be comfortable with this whether because they don't wear their religion on their sleeve or because they are not sure how that would impact his views on governing the country. If that is the case, and it is a deal breaker, then don't vote for him.
There are others - especially evangelical Christians - who would view it as having a moral compass and would be more inclined to vote for him.
But as a prior pp said politicians from both parties invoke God when it suits their purpose.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 06:31
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Anonymous wrote:Democrats have a big tent - everyone's welcome from atheists to evangelicals to Muslims to Buddhists and Jews, as well as any other faith.
Yes, because that's their vision - and the Founders' vision - for the United States. Today's Republicans, on the other hand, seem to want to limit the United States to only white Christians.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 06:18
Subject: Re:Pence's self-identification
Is Pence seeking to impose a religious rest for holding public office? That would be news to me.
Anonymous
07/31/2016 22:56
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the last decade virtually every Republican candidate for office has given their testimony about their relationship with Jesus. This is nothing new.
(Completely consistent with some conservatives' desire to impose a Christian theocracy on the country, in violation of the 1st Amendment, but nothing new.)
+1
And the Democrats have been the party of the godless.
I'd say both sides love using the God card to get votes.
DNC
Michelle
Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.
Pres
We’re not done perfecting our union, or living up to our founding creed that all of us are created equal; all of us are free in the eyes of God.
Thank you for this incredible journey. Let’s keep it going. God bless you. God bless the United States of America.
Hill
They used whatever tools they had - whatever God gave them . . .
Thank you, and may God bless the United States of America.
Bill
God bless you and God bless America.
Anonymous
07/31/2016 22:46
Subject: Re:Pence's self-identification
If the OP can't see the difference between Sharia Law and a person whose faith guides their choices, I kind of pity the OP.
While I strongly disagree with many of Pence's political positions this is a non-story. Pence seems like a generally good guy just way too socially conservative for my taste.
While I strongly disagree with many of Pence's political positions this is a non-story. Pence seems like a generally good guy just way too socially conservative for my taste.
Anonymous
07/31/2016 22:38
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the last decade virtually every Republican candidate for office has given their testimony about their relationship with Jesus. This is nothing new.
(Completely consistent with some conservatives' desire to impose a Christian theocracy on the country, in violation of the 1st Amendment, but nothing new.)
+1
And the Democrats have been the party of the godless.
Nah. Democrats just don't have to prove their patriot is by wearing a flag pin and they don't have to parade their religious beliefs in front of others as part of their politics.
Democrats have a big tent - everyone's welcome from atheists to evangelicals to Muslims to Buddhists and Jews, as well as any other faith.
Anonymous
07/31/2016 22:28
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Anonymous wrote:For the last decade virtually every Republican candidate for office has given their testimony about their relationship with Jesus. This is nothing new.
(Completely consistent with some conservatives' desire to impose a Christian theocracy on the country, in violation of the 1st Amendment, but nothing new.)
+1
And the Democrats have been the party of the godless.
Anonymous
07/31/2016 22:21
Subject: Pence's self-identification
For the last decade virtually every Republican candidate for office has given their testimony about their relationship with Jesus. This is nothing new.
(Completely consistent with some conservatives' desire to impose a Christian theocracy on the country, in violation of the 1st Amendment, but nothing new.)
(Completely consistent with some conservatives' desire to impose a Christian theocracy on the country, in violation of the 1st Amendment, but nothing new.)
takoma
07/31/2016 22:17
Subject: Pence's self-identification
Was anyone else bothered when, in accepting the nomination for VP, Mike Pence declared that above all else, he is a Christian. This despite the fact that the Constitution states "but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." I have no quarrel with the fact that Christianity is an important part of his life, but it bothers me greatly that he considers it relevant to his candidacy for a public office. I must admit, though, that I am not surprised, since his stand on every social issue seems to be dictated by a fundamentalist reading of the Bible.
How does this differ from Iran or ISIS being governed by sharia law?
How does this differ from Iran or ISIS being governed by sharia law?