Not thinking out of my league, but that they are in a league I don't want to belong to, mostly snobs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I generally wouldn't approach a woman who clears makes much more money, is from an affluent background or feels entitled to a lifestyle that I an unlikely to be able to provide. They eventually become "disappointed" and resentful. I'd much rather be with someone who is a little more grounded and is able to appreciate me.

One only needs to read 2/3s of the threads on DCUM to understand why.

This is so untrue. I make great money and do very well and don't feel entitled to anything. I also can provide for myself and wouldn't expect a guy to provide anything but companionship.

It's not true for everyone, obviously. But I think it is true for the majority. I think this is particularly an issue for women in their 30s and 40s, when things like childcare are an issue.

I don't blame women for this. I just see it as the female corollary to men who want women who are more attractive than they are.

You just don't see a lot of "high socioeconomic status (SES)" women with low SES men.

When I was earning my MBA I met a woman who graduated from Princeton and felt intimidated because I went to a third tier undergraduate school. But it was all in my head because she thought it was cool I was working hard towards my goals. Plus, she was very nice and down to earth so things were good.

But to answer your question, I don't think any women are out of my league and I don't think women should look at me (which they have) and think they are not good enough for me. There is a lot that goes into a successful relationship other than social status.

Education level.

Anonymous wrote:I generally wouldn't approach a woman who clears makes much more money, is from an affluent background or feels entitled to a lifestyle that I an unlikely to be able to provide. They eventually become "disappointed" and resentful. I'd much rather be with someone who is a little more grounded and is able to appreciate me.

One only needs to read 2/3s of the threads on DCUM to understand why.

This is so untrue. I make great money and do very well and don't feel entitled to anything. I also can provide for myself and wouldn't expect a guy to provide anything but companionship.

I generally wouldn't approach a woman who clears makes much more money, is from an affluent background or feels entitled to a lifestyle that I an unlikely to be able to provide. They eventually become "disappointed" and resentful. I'd much rather be with someone who is a little more grounded and is able to appreciate me.

One only needs to read 2/3s of the threads on DCUM to understand why.

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Anonymous wrote:Example, woman in my office,great looking,smart, way higher income. Hear about her vacations to incredible places and other adventures she has had. I have never been out of country. Income way below hers and probably > 10 yrs younger than her. We are great friends but I would never think of approaching her romantically. That is out of my league.

Your loss. What would you be afraid of?

The typical things, rejection, embarrassment....

Anonymous wrote:Example, woman in my office,great looking,smart, way higher income. Hear about her vacations to incredible places and other adventures she has had. I have never been out of country. Income way below hers and probably > 10 yrs younger than her. We are great friends but I would never think of approaching her romantically. That is out of my league.

Your loss. What would you be afraid of?

Example, woman in my office,great looking,smart, way higher income. Hear about her vacations to incredible places and other adventures she has had. I have never been out of country. Income way below hers and probably > 10 yrs younger than her. We are great friends but I would never think of approaching her romantically. That is out of my league.

Anonymous wrote:Do men really believe there are women who are out of their league and if so what makes them out of their league? Is it looks, money or something else. Or is this just a line men use?

Looks and significant difference in income.

I'm sorry for being the grammar police : THEIR league.

... Or the Reef BumBum champion^^

Looks. Period. Not everybody gets to impregnate the prom queen.

Mostly looks. Sometimes social class.

Do men really believe there are women who are out of their league and if so what makes them out of their league? Is it looks, money or something else. Or is this just a line men use?