Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 21:09     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.


Riding while drunk is not a crime and not a mitigating factor when proving the elements of vehicular manslaughter.


I agree with PP. His sentence is already harsh enough, having killed two of his friends. The 4 year jail term (will serve 1, mostl likely) is too harsh.


Too harsh? Two people are dead. They happened to have been his friends, but he could have killed anyone while driving drunk.

I think it's too lenient.

The party hosting parents deserve jail time, but let's be realistic--the parents of the kids who died knew their kids were drinking. How did they expect them to get home if not with their equally drunk friends. They don't deserve jail time, but their sentence is life long.



Absolutely this! He was driving at speeds up to 100mph! 4 years is WAY too light of a sentence.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:59     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County

There are no innocents in this situation.

The sentence is a minimum, given the driver's 2 prior alcohol convictions and 1 marijuana conviction. Definitely seems like a entitled prick who thinks he's above the law. Prison will teach him to think otherwise.



Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:51     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
If he were a kid that made this one bad decision one time maybe I could understand four years, but Ellis is known for a history of bad choices.

This sentence is way too lenient
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:47     Subject: Re:Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Anonymous wrote:20:14 you are an idiot. You can't compare two sentences that are wrong. Brock's sentence way too lenient, for sure. So is Ellis' sentence.


Why? What's the point? Pure retribution, because after a certain point, length of senetence does not change the deterrent factor -- 4 months or 4 years have the same deterrent effect. He has guilt, he doesn't need 4 years (1 year served) of prison time to feel worse, although he may want the prison time for expiation.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:24     Subject: Re:Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
20:14 you are an idiot. You can't compare two sentences that are wrong. Brock's sentence way too lenient, for sure. So is Ellis' sentence.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:17     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.


Riding while drunk is not a crime and not a mitigating factor when proving the elements of vehicular manslaughter.


I agree with PP. His sentence is already harsh enough, having killed two of his friends. The 4 year jail term (will serve 1, mostl likely) is too harsh.


Too harsh? Two people are dead. They happened to have been his friends, but he could have killed anyone while driving drunk.

I think it's too lenient.

The party hosting parents deserve jail time, but let's be realistic--the parents of the kids who died knew their kids were drinking. How did they expect them to get home if not with their equally drunk friends. They don't deserve jail time, but their sentence is life long.

Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:14     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Too harsh! Brock Got only 6 months!!!
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:13     Subject: Re:Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Not too harsh in my estimation. He killed his friends.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 20:07     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.


Riding while drunk is not a crime and not a mitigating factor when proving the elements of vehicular manslaughter.


I agree with PP. His sentence is already harsh enough, having killed two of his friends. The 4 year jail term (will serve 1, mostl likely) is too harsh.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 19:41     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.


Riding while drunk is not a crime and not a mitigating factor when proving the elements of vehicular manslaughter.

Perhaps the two adults sending off drunk teens out of their party house into their cars should have been charged as the most egregious of all the criminals that night. Good riddance to the Saltzman killers.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 19:20     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Anonymous wrote:Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.


Riding while drunk is not a crime and not a mitigating factor when proving the elements of vehicular manslaughter.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 19:10     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 18:51     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/Web-2016/Samuel-Ellis-Sentenced-to-Four-Years-in-Prison/
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 18:14     Subject: Re:Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
Link???
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 18:05     Subject: Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County
The hosting parents of the alcohol party got a little slap on the wrist with a drop in the bucket fine. Outrageous.