Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:50     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two senators have un-endorsed him, one GOP state legislator has left the party in protest, and Ryan effectively called him a racist. And that was just yesterday. Republicans know that Trump will not only likely lose and take the Senate and possibly the House with him, but he is destroying the Republican party as a viable national political institution. The question is, will they replace him before or during the convention?


It looked pretty bad early on yesterday, but I think his toned down, teleprompter-led speech may have been enough to calm the waters, for now. Give him a week; he'll find someone else to insult.


He's constitutionally incapable of acting like a civil adult. Plus that teleprompter didn't help. He went off script to tell a "pee pee" joke. Seriously.


I thought I heard it wrong, but you heard it too. Wow!
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:49     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:They are screwed wether they replace Trump or not. What do you think he will do if he is dumped at the convention? Sue of course! That will leave the replacement nominee in legal limbo while Trump continues to campaign.

Their best hope is to unendorse Trump and then argue they should keep the House and Senate because you can't trust Hillary.


Un-endorsing him will only save a few hides in November. What they should also do is free the delegates to vote for whomever they want. That way he can't claim it was rigged, at least legitimately claim it was rigged.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:47     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:They are screwed wether they replace Trump or not. What do you think he will do if he is dumped at the convention? Sue of course! That will leave the replacement nominee in legal limbo while Trump continues to campaign.

Their best hope is to unendorse Trump and then argue they should keep the House and Senate because you can't trust Hillary.


I suspect that even if he loses to Hillary in November, they won't be able to call it because he will leverage lawsuits in several states. He is going to hose this thing eight ways left of Sunday.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:46     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two senators have un-endorsed him, one GOP state legislator has left the party in protest, and Ryan effectively called him a racist. And that was just yesterday. Republicans know that Trump will not only likely lose and take the Senate and possibly the House with him, but he is destroying the Republican party as a viable national political institution. The question is, will they replace him before or during the convention?


It looked pretty bad early on yesterday, but I think his toned down, teleprompter-led speech may have been enough to calm the waters, for now. Give him a week; he'll find someone else to insult.


He's constitutionally incapable of acting like a civil adult. Plus that teleprompter didn't help. He went off script to tell a "pee pee" joke. Seriously.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:45     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
They are screwed wether they replace Trump or not. What do you think he will do if he is dumped at the convention? Sue of course! That will leave the replacement nominee in legal limbo while Trump continues to campaign.

Their best hope is to unendorse Trump and then argue they should keep the House and Senate because you can't trust Hillary.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:43     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:Two senators have un-endorsed him, one GOP state legislator has left the party in protest, and Ryan effectively called him a racist. And that was just yesterday. Republicans know that Trump will not only likely lose and take the Senate and possibly the House with him, but he is destroying the Republican party as a viable national political institution. The question is, will they replace him before or during the convention?


It looked pretty bad early on yesterday, but I think his toned down, teleprompter-led speech may have been enough to calm the waters, for now. Give him a week; he'll find someone else to insult.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:41     Subject: Re:The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Add one. Walker just turned on him.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:39     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:Also -- we haven't had Obama coming out to campaign yet -- this will be the first time since 2008 he will be in pure campaign mode.

Trump's too stupid to try and play on Hispanic-Black tensions, he doesn't realize everyone who's susceptible to the race card is already voting Republican.


Now, this comment just made me laugh out loud.
Seriously. He has been in campaign mode since 2008.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:35     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:It all depends on whether Trump threatens to lose Dukakis-style, with AZ, MT, NC, GA going blue, and TX a battleground.

If so, the rats will leave as they don't want to risk losing the Senate.

If it stays close ... there will be individuals who are seeking to help themselves (e.g. Kirk in IL, who's facing a re-election this fall) but the party apparatus will largely stay behind Trump, if only in a pro forma sense the way Reagan endorsed Ford in 1976 and then did absolutely nothing.


True enough. Note the sound of crickets as Clinton ripped into him the other day. The party was painfully silent when it came to jumping to his defense. They will let him hang out there in the breeze. For Trump, it's all coming home to roost.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:34     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Also -- we haven't had Obama coming out to campaign yet -- this will be the first time since 2008 he will be in pure campaign mode.

Trump's too stupid to try and play on Hispanic-Black tensions, he doesn't realize everyone who's susceptible to the race card is already voting Republican.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:32     Subject: Re:The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Anonymous wrote:It really depends on how much backbone GOP leaders have. Someone has to be around to pick up the pieces after Trump decimates the party in November. It's a question of who is willing to buck the storm now in order to live another day.


Well, we know it won't be Trump- leaving a nice vacuum for a smart pol.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:32     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
It all depends on whether Trump threatens to lose Dukakis-style, with AZ, MT, NC, GA going blue, and TX a battleground.

If so, the rats will leave as they don't want to risk losing the Senate.

If it stays close ... there will be individuals who are seeking to help themselves (e.g. Kirk in IL, who's facing a re-election this fall) but the party apparatus will largely stay behind Trump, if only in a pro forma sense the way Reagan endorsed Ford in 1976 and then did absolutely nothing.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:26     Subject: Re:The rebellion against Trump has begun.
It really depends on how much backbone GOP leaders have. Someone has to be around to pick up the pieces after Trump decimates the party in November. It's a question of who is willing to buck the storm now in order to live another day.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:24     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
The more likely it becomes that he won't win the general election, the higher the risk for endorsing him. You don't want to be guy left standing who endorsed the racist, party-dividing candidate who is not part of any political machine, after the fact.

Some tough cost-benefit analyses ahead for the GOP.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 11:21     Subject: The rebellion against Trump has begun.
Two senators have un-endorsed him, one GOP state legislator has left the party in protest, and Ryan effectively called him a racist. And that was just yesterday. Republicans know that Trump will not only likely lose and take the Senate and possibly the House with him, but he is destroying the Republican party as a viable national political institution. The question is, will they replace him before or during the convention?