Anonymous
04/26/2016 16:16
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:blah blah blah -- Time to face facts, Bernie fans. More Democrats want Hillary Clinton as their nominee than Bernie ... millions more. You can pout and cry and make up all the junk you want, but it's not changing the will of the people. Bernie made his best case, but the voters have spoken.
Yep. This country will get what it deserves.
Yes! A powerful woman in the White House who will get things done! It makes me hopeful for America's future!
Anonymous
04/26/2016 16:15
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:blah blah blah -- Time to face facts, Bernie fans. More Democrats want Hillary Clinton as their nominee than Bernie ... millions more. You can pout and cry and make up all the junk you want, but it's not changing the will of the people. Bernie made his best case, but the voters have spoken.
Yep. This country will get what it deserves.
Yes! A powerful woman in the White House who will get things done! It makes me hopeful for America's future!
By inflicting more scandals. She would be the President Nixon wanted to be but even he didn't have the guts to pull off this level of corruption and incompetence
Anonymous
04/26/2016 16:12
Subject: Re:Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Some Hillary supporters remind me of Trump supporters.
Many Trump supporters don't really care what he does or says because they are going to vote for him.
Many Trump supporters don't really care what he does or says because they are going to vote for him.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 16:08
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
HRC will attract neocons to make up the loss of true progressives. The question is will that be enough. I think she will fall short. The country as a whole is tired of going to war in the middle east. It's time for Bernie, or Trump.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 16:07
Subject: Re:Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
takoma wrote:Politics is a multi-dimensional universe. One's stands on military questions, abortion, economic equality, LGBT rights, the death penalty, and other issues are logically independent of each other, as well as of a candidate's experience and qualifications.
So it is not at all unusual to support a candidate you disagree with on some issue because you agree on issues that are more important to you. Hillary is undoubtedly more hawkish than I would like, but on most other issues she is more or less on my wavelength. And even on the hawkishness issue, it is likely that the GOP candidate will be even less to my liking.
Consequently, although my (small) contributions have so far gone to Bernie, I have no doubt that I will be giving money, time, and my vote to Hillary if/when she is the nominee.
Well said. I agree.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 16:07
Subject: Re:Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
takoma wrote:Politics is a multi-dimensional universe. One's stands on military questions, abortion, economic equality, LGBT rights, the death penalty, and other issues are logically independent of each other, as well as of a candidate's experience and qualifications.
So it is not at all unusual to support a candidate you disagree with on some issue because you agree on issues that are more important to you. Hillary is undoubtedly more hawkish than I would like, but on most other issues she is more or less on my wavelength. And even on the hawkishness issue, it is likely that the GOP candidate will be even less to my liking.
Consequently, although my (small) contributions have so far gone to Bernie, I have no doubt that I will be giving money, time, and my vote to Hillary if/when she is the nominee.
This is a smart post. Let's keep our eyes on the ball.
takoma
04/26/2016 16:03
Subject: Re:Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Politics is a multi-dimensional universe. One's stands on military questions, abortion, economic equality, LGBT rights, the death penalty, and other issues are logically independent of each other, as well as of a candidate's experience and qualifications.
So it is not at all unusual to support a candidate you disagree with on some issue because you agree on issues that are more important to you. Hillary is undoubtedly more hawkish than I would like, but on most other issues she is more or less on my wavelength. And even on the hawkishness issue, it is likely that the GOP candidate will be even less to my liking.
Consequently, although my (small) contributions have so far gone to Bernie, I have no doubt that I will be giving money, time, and my vote to Hillary if/when she is the nominee.
So it is not at all unusual to support a candidate you disagree with on some issue because you agree on issues that are more important to you. Hillary is undoubtedly more hawkish than I would like, but on most other issues she is more or less on my wavelength. And even on the hawkishness issue, it is likely that the GOP candidate will be even less to my liking.
Consequently, although my (small) contributions have so far gone to Bernie, I have no doubt that I will be giving money, time, and my vote to Hillary if/when she is the nominee.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:56
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
You're the same people who bitch and moan that the US isn't doing enough to protect/support/save [insert name of marginalized people] in [insert country that isn't the US].
You want intervention when it serves your purposes. And you rely on 20/20 hindsight for the rest.
Well, get ready for WWIII, bros, cause Hillary is going to be your next Invader in Chief.
You want intervention when it serves your purposes. And you rely on 20/20 hindsight for the rest.
Well, get ready for WWIII, bros, cause Hillary is going to be your next Invader in Chief.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:54
Subject: Re:Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Anonymous wrote:I guess if you really scratch the surface, "the Goldwater gal" emerges - she never really went away!
HRC has been a Democrat since 1968. And Bernie? Not sure you want to talk about scratching the surface with that one.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:53
Subject: Re:Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
I guess if you really scratch the surface, "the Goldwater gal" emerges - she never really went away!
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:52
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:blah blah blah -- Time to face facts, Bernie fans. More Democrats want Hillary Clinton as their nominee than Bernie ... millions more. You can pout and cry and make up all the junk you want, but it's not changing the will of the people. Bernie made his best case, but the voters have spoken.
Yep. This country will get what it deserves.
Yes! A powerful woman in the White House who will get things done! It makes me hopeful for America's future!
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:49
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Anonymous wrote:blah blah blah -- Time to face facts, Bernie fans. More Democrats want Hillary Clinton as their nominee than Bernie ... millions more. You can pout and cry and make up all the junk you want, but it's not changing the will of the people. Bernie made his best case, but the voters have spoken.
Yep. This country will get what it deserves.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:45
Subject: Re:Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
yawn
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:44
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
blah blah blah -- Time to face facts, Bernie fans. More Democrats want Hillary Clinton as their nominee than Bernie ... millions more. You can pout and cry and make up all the junk you want, but it's not changing the will of the people. Bernie made his best case, but the voters have spoken.
Anonymous
04/26/2016 15:39
Subject: Hillary Clinton - the neocon's favorite candidate
Yes, if the Republicans cannot nominate their own neocon for president, they will do the next best thing: support Hillary Clinton.
The list of those who offer either direct or tacit support for Clinton is a who's who of right wingers who believe the US should use its military power to assert its will around the world. Amazingly, liberals supporting Clinton are either not aware or choose to ignore their support for her. Is it any wonder that Sanders and his supporters are ambivalent or opposed to backing her if she is the nominee?
Koch's recent comments about HRC garnered attention but there are many more: they range from Kissinger to Cheney to Lindsey Graham and McCain.
Would the real Hillary Clinton please stand up?
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/26/a_progressive_in_name_only_charles_koch_joins_a_long_list_of_right_wingers_who_have_lauded_hillary_clinton/
The list of those who offer either direct or tacit support for Clinton is a who's who of right wingers who believe the US should use its military power to assert its will around the world. Amazingly, liberals supporting Clinton are either not aware or choose to ignore their support for her. Is it any wonder that Sanders and his supporters are ambivalent or opposed to backing her if she is the nominee?
Koch's recent comments about HRC garnered attention but there are many more: they range from Kissinger to Cheney to Lindsey Graham and McCain.
Would the real Hillary Clinton please stand up?
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/26/a_progressive_in_name_only_charles_koch_joins_a_long_list_of_right_wingers_who_have_lauded_hillary_clinton/