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Anonymous wrote:Ps - pp no you do not have to always ask for more money when you receive an offer. I will give you an offer that makes sense - whether it's all I have in budget or because you making 20% higher for a new job is acceptable. You my candidate do not dictate terms. You should want the job on its merits and employer should want to make you as financially happy as possible and we hash it out upfront. I will rescind an offer to a candidate and suggest to my hiring manager immediately how greedy you are if you back out of our agreed range on the front end. You will lose out. Be nice to your recruiter!

You sound like a terrible recruiter. Wow

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ps - pp no you do not have to always ask for more money when you receive an offer. I will give you an offer that makes sense - whether it's all I have in budget or because you making 20% higher for a new job is acceptable. You my candidate do not dictate terms. You should want the job on its merits and employer should want to make you as financially happy as possible and we hash it out upfront. I will rescind an offer to a candidate and suggest to my hiring manager immediately how greedy you are if you back out of our agreed range on the front end. You will lose out. Be nice to your recruiter!

You sound like a terrible recruiter. Wow

No they don't. You just don't like how the game is played by companies.

Counter 10% above offer
Everyone else thats standard procedure

Anonymous wrote:Ps - pp no you do not have to always ask for more money when you receive an offer. I will give you an offer that makes sense - whether it's all I have in budget or because you making 20% higher for a new job is acceptable. You my candidate do not dictate terms. You should want the job on its merits and employer should want to make you as financially happy as possible and we hash it out upfront. I will rescind an offer to a candidate and suggest to my hiring manager immediately how greedy you are if you back out of our agreed range on the front end. You will lose out. Be nice to your recruiter!

You sound like a terrible recruiter. Wow

Be honest. Say, after research of comparable positions, I was really hoping to make $175K. However, I really like the position/company and know that I am a great fit. So, do you have any flexibility in the starting salary? (or can you offer a sign-on bonus)

I'm in finance, and every job I've interviewed for, I've either negotiated a higher salary, a sign on bonus, a guaranteed 1st year bonus or more vacation. Companies always have something to give.

Ps - pp no you do not have to always ask for more money when you receive an offer. I will give you an offer that makes sense - whether it's all I have in budget or because you making 20% higher for a new job is acceptable. You my candidate do not dictate terms. You should want the job on its merits and employer should want to make you as financially happy as possible and we hash it out upfront. I will rescind an offer to a candidate and suggest to my hiring manager immediately how greedy you are if you back out of our agreed range on the front end. You will lose out. Be nice to your recruiter!

Corp recruiter here - initially did either you/recruiter cover salary range for this role? Typically I would work with a candidate personally who I knew I could meet salary expectations early in conversation. So it could be they are throwing you best offer - an increase of that low isn't normally what an employer wants to do. You can also try to suggest to the hiring manager - and they will not put this in writing and every manager is different - whether you can take xtra PTO. I will bring it to my hiring manager by candidate request if they are a stellar candidate I know is a good fit and we just have no more $ to offer. I can't comment on the market comp being fair for your offer. I recruit finance but it depends the kind of co and what you do in finance. I will say again I would not have made you that low of an offer so you can counter but I bet they have no more to give. It's not something typically that should happen in process - FYI. Good luck!

why not ask for $160 and negotiate to $150?

Have you been on glassdoor for the position/organization and do you have an idea of what similar positions are paid at the company? I'm assuming they know your salary.

REgardless, you do need to ask for more, it's just expected.

don't forget to negotiate for any non-salary things like time off, benefits, hours, etc.

125k(past salary) to 175K (desired salary) is an unrealistic jump unless there is a fundamental change in roles.

It does depend on industry, but in my role (defense contracting), 170K + are people with 20 year experience and a PhD. Or people that bind in a couple million of business per year.

15 years experience, and I assume a Bachelors degree? well if it is a T & M contract, they will not get a customer to cover your salary: you will not qualify for the labor pool.

Prepare to justify your request and go for it. Nothing to lose. Don't negotiate against yourself.

Are you in a revenue generating role? Is this a step up from your current position (i.e., you're moving into a leadership role)? Has this position been open for awhile and you have unique skills to fill it?

Do they know what you were making before? That's a 12% raise; not bad...

I think 175 is far from 140. Remember you will be working with these people, so I would be reasonable and not play games. I would instead just ask for your 150 goal and say why you deserve the extra ten thousand

bahahahaha

Salary offered was 140k in finance/banking. It's 15k more than my salary now. I was hoping to ask for salary of 175k and hope they will counter to 150-160k. Is this how it works or am I being unreasonable? 15 years experience.