Anonymous wrote:My snowflake is going to an IVY
Public State Schools are for losers
(typical DCUM thought process)

Therefore, UVA is for losers.

My snowflake is going to an IVY
Public State Schools are for losers
(typical DCUM thought process)

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Anonymous wrote:The state schools are only "Best Values" if you get in state tuition.

Yes, exactly. Given that out of state tuition at most of those universities is comparable to private school tuition, I really don't see the point of this article unless you live in one of those states. (Obviously, then it is a no brainer)

Out of state tuition at the top public universities are less than private university tuitions and the article looks at the school quality, graduation rate and after graduation earnings as well.

Anonymous wrote:The state schools are only "Best Values" if you get in state tuition.

Yes, exactly. Given that out of state tuition at most of those universities is comparable to private school tuition, I really don't see the point of this article unless you live in one of those states. (Obviously, then it is a no brainer)

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Anonymous wrote:interesting to see how 3 local schools - UVa (19), W&M (22), and UMD (24) - are so closely ranked.

I would have thought that UVa would be much higher

Only worthwhile undergraduate program worth mentioning at UVA is the Business Program. Actual programs and departments are mediocre/average and the university itself would be mediocre at best without having Thomas Jefferson associated with the school. Except for Business/Law, (graduate programs) how many programs are ranked in the top ten? Not many. Contrast this with Berkeley or Harvard which has more than 40 graduate programs in the top ten.

My guess is VATech and MD would have more graduate programs ranked in the tip ten or top twenty than UVA.

I think the article is about colleges, not graduate programs.

PP describes undergraduate programs in the first half of the comment.

Not sure about relevance of graduate programs when point of article is value colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:interesting to see how 3 local schools - UVa (19), W&M (22), and UMD (24) - are so closely ranked.

I would have thought that UVa would be much higher

Only worthwhile undergraduate program worth mentioning at UVA is the Business Program. Actual programs and departments are mediocre/average and the university itself would be mediocre at best without having Thomas Jefferson associated with the school. Except for Business/Law, (graduate programs) how many programs are ranked in the top ten? Not many. Contrast this with Berkeley or Harvard which has more than 40 graduate programs in the top ten.

My guess is VATech and MD would have more graduate programs ranked in the tip ten or top twenty than UVA.

I think the article is about colleges, not graduate programs.

PP describes undergraduate programs in the first half of the comment.

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Anonymous wrote:interesting to see how 3 local schools - UVa (19), W&M (22), and UMD (24) - are so closely ranked.

I would have thought that UVa would be much higher

Only worthwhile undergraduate program worth mentioning at UVA is the Business Program. Actual programs and departments are mediocre/average and the university itself would be mediocre at best without having Thomas Jefferson associated with the school. Except for Business/Law, (graduate programs) how many programs are ranked in the top ten? Not many. Contrast this with Berkeley or Harvard which has more than 40 graduate programs in the top ten.

My guess is VATech and MD would have more graduate programs ranked in the tip ten or top twenty than UVA.

I think the article is about colleges, not graduate programs.

Anonymous wrote:The forgot UW Madison

It is inexpensive and its grad programs do very well in the rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:interesting to see how 3 local schools - UVa (19), W&M (22), and UMD (24) - are so closely ranked.

I would have thought that UVa would be much higher

Only worthwhile undergraduate program worth mentioning at UVA is the Business Program. Actual programs and departments are mediocre/average and the university itself would be mediocre at best without having Thomas Jefferson associated with the school. Except for Business/Law, (graduate programs) how many programs are ranked in the top ten? Not many. Contrast this with Berkeley or Harvard which has more than 40 graduate programs in the top ten.

My guess is VATech and MD would have more graduate programs ranked in the tip ten or top twenty than UVA.

Anonymous wrote:interesting to see how 3 local schools - UVa (19), W&M (22), and UMD (24) - are so closely ranked.

I would have thought that UVa would be much higher

interesting to see how 3 local schools - UVa (19), W&M (22), and UMD (24) - are so closely ranked.

The forgot UW Madison

Cal is the best state university in the country. But good for VA, with two schools in the top 25. All the more remarkable because the cave people in the state legislature have vastly reduced state support over the years.

The state schools are only "Best Values" if you get in state tuition.

"In the coming weeks, high school seniors, transfer students and their families will make one of the most important personal and financial decisions of their lives: What college to attend? For this reason, FORBES has compiled this newly reimagined Best Value Colleges ranking based on tuition costs, school quality, graduation success rates and post-grad earnings."

The Top 10

University of California, Berkeley is the No. 1 Best Value College, followed by Brigham Young University and University of Florida. The top 10 include three more U.C. schools — UCLA (No. 4), U.C. San Diego (No. 5) and U.C. Irvine (No. 10). MIT and Harvard University are the only East Coast private schools in the top (No. 6 and No. 9). The Midwest makes a showing at No. 7 with University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign while the South’s public Georgia Institute of Technology comes in at a No. 8.

Research universities make a strong showing in the top 50 Best Value colleges, taking 38 of the spots. Caltech and Stanford University show at No. 11 and 12, respectively, followed by Carnegie Mellon University (No. 27), Virginia Tech (No. 29) and Colorado School of Mines (No.45). Many of the baccalaureate colleges in the top are also STEM-oriented: Harvey Mudd College (No. 13) and Cooper Union (No. 38), to name two.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2016/03/29/best-value-colleges-2016-the-300-schools-worth-the-investment/#4f6a654f62dd