Anonymous wrote:

I wonder if it's changed much since then.

The old, white "Virginia Gentleman" president left and then now have a female president who wasn't entrenched in UVA culture.

That "old" president was a dedicated leader who played a huge role in making the place as great--and coveted--as it is today.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not much, it appears.

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/report_affirmative_action_at_three_universities.pdf

Come on, 2003 data.

I wonder if it's changed much since then. Doubt it but...

The URM kids with the stats to legitimately be considered for UVA go to Harvard and Princeton. There just aren't that many URM kids with stellar scores.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not much, it appears.

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/report_affirmative_action_at_three_universities.pdf

Come on, 2003 data.

I wonder if it's changed much since then. Doubt it but...

No, I'm sure it hasn't changed much.

I wonder if it's changed much since then.

The old, white "Virginia Gentleman" president left and then now have a female president who wasn't entrenched in UVA culture.

Anonymous wrote:The way the study was done, if you compared recruited athletes or legacies, or people from geographically or economically diverse areas, you would the same results and come up with the same conclusions. The facts are the number of URMs, athletes, musicians, etc at UVa and other similar schools are low and do not impact the admissions of others. My cousins from western Va feel that have a chance at UVa and W&M, even though there kids do not go to as a competitive HS or have as high test scores as found in NOVA. You will often hear admissions directors from top schools say that they could fill their classes with kids from top secondary schools in one region or same ilk. But their institutions strongly feel that the best learning environments is one that incorporates the best of those with disparte backgrounds. So those who are first generation college (many from my family) or URM, or military veterans may not have the tip-top scores or backgrounds, but they are strong enough to eat admitted and do well.

You are probably among the very few who understand this concept (bolded). There are many here who want it to appear that all URMs, including your other examples, are admitted with no review or assessment other than skin color.

It never occurs to posters in DCUM that if URMs were admitted the way they perceive, they would be the majority at every university especially Ivys. And that is definitely not the case given the majority URM student body numbers in the single digits at most colleges.

The way the study was done, if you compared recruited athletes or legacies, or people from geographically or economically diverse areas, you would the same results and come up with the same conclusions. The facts are the number of URMs, athletes, musicians, etc at UVa and other similar schools are low and do not impact the admissions of others. My cousins from western Va feel that have a chance at UVa and W&M, even though there kids do not go to as a competitive HS or have as high test scores as found in NOVA. You will often hear admissions directors from top schools say that they could fill their classes with kids from top secondary schools in one region or same ilk. But their institutions strongly feel that the best learning environments is one that incorporates the best of those with disparte backgrounds. So those who are first generation college (many from my family) or URM, or military veterans may not have the tip-top scores or backgrounds, but they are strong enough to eat admitted and do well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not much, it appears.

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/report_affirmative_action_at_three_universities.pdf

Come on, 2003 data.

I wonder if it's changed much since then. Doubt it but...

Anonymous wrote:Not much, it appears.

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/report_affirmative_action_at_three_universities.pdf

Come on, 2003 data.

Anonymous wrote:What's a URM?

Under Represented Minorities - refers to blacks and latinos

What's a URM?

I'll just leave this here...

http://www.discriminations.us/2014/09/the-dark-side-of-uvas-bright-racial-data/

Anonymous wrote:What kind of stats does a URM need to get into UVA?

Are you the one who starts all the recent URM threads and black Ivys? What do you really want?

^amazing...

Not much, it appears.

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/report_affirmative_action_at_three_universities.pdf

What kind of stats does a URM need to get into UVA?