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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just ignore what the Bible says like every other progressive Christian.

Show me where Jesus says homosexuality is a sin.... You can't.

NP but Sodom and Gomorrah.

I was the pp who believes two parent families are a blessing and that Jesus would love gays too.

How do we know that the Sodom and Gomorrah sin was homosexuality? Is that ever explicitely written?

Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative christian as well, and my daughter is gay. I think it's wrong, and a sin, but so is gossiping and divorce and greed and on and on and on. Everyone's committing sins every day, including me! Her being gay is no worse that my other daughter sleeping with her boyfriend. It's not place to condemn anyone for any sin, especially one that's not hurting me. I just pray the same thing for us all - to be forgiven, to want to be closer to God and to live our lives to please Him.

The difference is, most people repent from non-sexual sins. People who sexually sin enjoy the sin and don't usually repent and change their ways.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just ignore what the Bible says like every other progressive Christian.

Show me where Jesus says homosexuality is a sin.... You can't.

Paul does, and his writings were inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Bible tells you not to do a lot of things that we do every day without thinking about it. Why do you ignore those rules?

Because The Bible isn't meant to be literal. I think the most important aspects of Christianity are about love and helping your neighbor. Giving and putting out love into the world. Accepting people from all walks of life and showing them love. Those stories are the power behind the Christian religion. Any preacher who rallies behind hate and shunning and looking down on is Doing It Wrong. At least in my book.

OP here. Because they are in the Old Testament. But the New Testament condemns, very plainly, sexual deviance and homosexuality. I guess my feeling is, if we start picking and choosing from the New Testament, we are just ignoring what Christianity is. At the same time, I do not see the moral "wrongness" of homosexuality. I am not some sort of expert, but I have read the whole Bible, and... I don't know. I just literally do not know what to think in this situation.

The Gospel does not condemn homosexuality.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just ignore what the Bible says like every other progressive Christian.

Show me where Jesus says homosexuality is a sin.... You can't.

NP but Sodom and Gomorrah.

I was the pp who believes two parent families are a blessing and that Jesus would love gays too.

I think about Jesus. He would have compassion for all.

I think the root cause of monogamous, straight marriages was to produce children. We no longer need that as gay men can adopt or use surrogates. Two loving parents to me are a family.

Anonymous wrote:You just ignore what the Bible says like every other progressive Christian.

Show me where Jesus says homosexuality is a sin.... You can't.

I'm a Christian and I reconcile it the same way I reconcile all the other historical problems in the Bible that we no longer follow. The Bible is divinely inspired but was written by men thousands of years ago. I don't take it literally and I don't have a problem with anyone being gay any more than I have a problem with people having tattoos, or eating shellfish.

Jesus came with love for the outsider. There's no chance that he wants us to exclude and condemn.

Anonymous wrote:The Bible tells you not to do a lot of things that we do every day without thinking about it. Why do you ignore those rules?

Because The Bible isn't meant to be literal. I think the most important aspects of Christianity are about love and helping your neighbor. Giving and putting out love into the world. Accepting people from all walks of life and showing them love. Those stories are the power behind the Christian religion. Any preacher who rallies behind hate and shunning and looking down on is Doing It Wrong. At least in my book.

OP here. Because they are in the Old Testament. But the New Testament condemns, very plainly, sexual deviance and homosexuality. I guess my feeling is, if we start picking and choosing from the New Testament, we are just ignoring what Christianity is. At the same time, I do not see the moral "wrongness" of homosexuality. I am not some sort of expert, but I have read the whole Bible, and... I don't know. I just literally do not know what to think in this situation.

I'm a conservative christian as well, and my daughter is gay. I think it's wrong, and a sin, but so is gossiping and divorce and greed and on and on and on. Everyone's committing sins every day, including me! Her being gay is no worse that my other daughter sleeping with her boyfriend. It's not place to condemn anyone for any sin, especially one that's not hurting me. I just pray the same thing for us all - to be forgiven, to want to be closer to God and to live our lives to please Him.

Several Protestant denominations perform gay marriages (Episcopal, Presbyterian, probably more I don't know) and I imagine more will do in the next few decades. The episcopalians even have gay priests.

The OT clearly condemns homosexuality but, as you'll recall, Jesus did away with most of the OT rules on diet, clothing, and other personal care issues. Jesus talked a lot about how bad adultery is--but he never mentioned homosexuality. The only place you find homosexuality mentioned in the New Testament is in Paul's letters. Many Christians regard Paul's letters as pastoral in nature, and also as valuable because he talks about meeting the resurrected Christ and passes on the earliest creed, but not as God's words per se.

Anonymous wrote:You just ignore what the Bible says like every other progressive Christian.

So you follow every single edict in the Bible, every single day of your life do you?

You just ignore what the Bible says like every other progressive Christian.

The Bible tells you not to do a lot of things that we do every day without thinking about it. Why do you ignore those rules?

Because The Bible isn't meant to be literal. I think the most important aspects of Christianity are about love and helping your neighbor. Giving and putting out love into the world. Accepting people from all walks of life and showing them love. Those stories are the power behind the Christian religion. Any preacher who rallies behind hate and shunning and looking down on is Doing It Wrong. At least in my book.

I am a Christian, but I genuinely do not feel that homosexuality is wrong. I just never have. I do see that homosexual acts are condemned by the Bible. I go to a very conservative church that will never perform gay marriages, for example. But in my heart, in my conscience, I just really do not feel homosexuality is wrong. I do not see anything immoral about it. If you have felt similar and found a way to reconcile this, I would love to know! I have been thinking about it for awhile.