Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the OP is saying that (this is not my interpretation), don't they have a right to express that opinion even if you think they are wrong?

They have no rights other than what Jeff gives them. It is his playground.

Yes, I know. It's one of the few things I don't like about the board, but I understand that my choice is to stay or leave. I'm just putting a plug in to allow people to voice their opinions, even when they are silly and/or offensive. I tend to think that the posts that come after that call OPs like this out are a better way to handle this than to delete the thread. But....I am not about to start my own site so I get how little my opinion matters!

Unfortunately, an entirely hands-off approach to anonymous postings at any scale larger than a few users simply doesn't work. Offensive posts drive away the more thoughtful users who simply aren't interested in wading through garbage and all that's left are the offensive posters in the end. While most people can understand this, there is disagreement as to where the line should be drawn. In the case of DCUM, I draw the line. There are other ways that it could be done, but people would disagree with those as well. So, we just keep things simple.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/530737.page#8299336

The person -- OP -- is effectively saying that people make bad choices and end up with cancer.

Sorry, it took me a while to work my way through this. I'm not sure if you realized, but you linked to your own post. I assume that you are referring to the long post that is quoted in the message to which you linked? My understanding of that post is that the poster is referring to one specific type of cancer and providing suggestions for reducing risk. I am not sure what is controversial about that and I do not agree that it is blaming the people who have cancer for their cancer. I do realize that this is a sensitive topic to many and that some readers may interpret things differently than I do, but I don't feel that thread requires any intervention from me.

I remember that post, OP, and my first inclination was to write tl;dr and then I remembered friends and family members -- specifically several women who contracted breast cancer -- who were in better shape than I am! One ran triathlons. Another had led a life that was super strict in diet and exercise because her mom had a hysterectomy. Those are just two examples. Both had smooth recoveries because of consistently healthy choices.

Here's the clincher: cancer was discovered in Stage 1 and Stage 2, respectively, due to preventive checkups.

True, there are many people who've made consistently unhealthy choices and contracted cancer, but my grandmother smoked her entire life and never got cancer. She died at 90 from complications due to Alzheimer's. Maybe someday a scientist will find a link. Who knows?

The point is that anecdotal examples lead to unreliable conclusions. It's better to proceed from empathy.

So, yes, you've pointed out yet another example of a judgmental, holier-than-thou DCUM poster who comes across simultaneously as simplistic and unsympathetic. Unfortunately, they are all over this board.

Keep pointing this out. It expands the dialogue for everyone.

For what it's worth, I agree this thread should be deleted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had to stop reading that thread because of the severe misinformation. Some cancers are linked to lifestyle choices, but most are idiosyncratic, meaning they have no known cause. It's ridiculous (not to mention tempting fate) to claim that a person with cancer gave it to himself.

I think PP means "idiopathic"

Yes, thank you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the OP is saying that (this is not my interpretation), don't they have a right to express that opinion even if you think they are wrong?

They have no rights other than what Jeff gives them. It is his playground.

Yes, I know. It's one of the few things I don't like about the board, but I understand that my choice is to stay or leave. I'm just putting a plug in to allow people to voice their opinions, even when they are silly and/or offensive. I tend to think that the posts that come after that call OPs like this out are a better way to handle this than to delete the thread. But....I am not about to start my own site so I get how little my opinion matters!

Anonymous wrote:Even if the OP is saying that (this is not my interpretation), don't they have a right to express that opinion even if you think they are wrong?

They have no rights other than what Jeff gives them. It is his playground.

Even if the OP is saying that (this is not my interpretation), don't they have a right to express that opinion even if you think they are wrong?

Anonymous wrote:I had to stop reading that thread because of the severe misinformation. Some cancers are linked to lifestyle choices, but most are idiosyncratic, meaning they have no known cause. It's ridiculous (not to mention tempting fate) to claim that a person with cancer gave it to himself.

I think PP means "idiopathic"

I had to stop reading that thread because of the severe misinformation. Some cancers are linked to lifestyle choices, but most are idiosyncratic, meaning they have no known cause. It's ridiculous (not to mention tempting fate) to claim that a person with cancer gave it to himself.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/530737.page#8299336

The person -- OP -- is effectively saying that people make bad choices and end up with cancer.

That was not OP's response and the poster who did say is true, our dietary and exercise habits do affect our health. It is not the only factor, but it is a factor.
That is not the same as "blaming" people for having cancer. It just is not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/530737.page#8299336

The person -- OP -- is effectively saying that people make bad choices and end up with cancer.

Isn't what op is saying true?

But, No. That is not what op is solely saying. Op is stating there are numerous factors including genetic, chemical exposures, diet / exercise and other random factors.

Nowhere did he simply say you make a bad choice you end up with cancer.

He gave an example of 30 smokers in a room vs 30 non smokers and estimating that the smokers just may wind up having better odds of cancer. I think that's pretty obvious. You don't?

He also said you can do all things right and end up with cancer, just bad odds. Have you read the thread? Or are you stuck on what one person responded to?

Agree. Except most of that wasn't said by me. I asked if we're funding research for cancer prevention at NIH, based on a current news story (WTOP) that NIH wants billions more.

...OP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/530737.page#8299336

The person -- OP -- is effectively saying that people make bad choices and end up with cancer.

Isn't what op is saying true?

But, No. That is not what op is solely saying. Op is stating there are numerous factors including genetic, chemical exposures, diet / exercise and other random factors.

Nowhere did he simply say you make a bad choice you end up with cancer.

He gave an example of 30 smokers in a room vs 30 non smokers and estimating that the smokers just may wind up having better odds of cancer. I think that's pretty obvious. You don't?

He also said you can do all things right and end up with cancer, just bad odds. Have you read the thread? Or are you stuck on what one person responded to?

Agree. Except most of that wasn't said by me. I asked if we're funding research for cancer prevention at NIH, based on a current news story (WTOP) that NIH wants billions more.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/530737.page#8299336

The person -- OP -- is effectively saying that people make bad choices and end up with cancer.

Isn't what op is saying true?

But, No. That is not what op is solely saying. Op is stating there are numerous factors including genetic, chemical exposures, diet / exercise and other random factors.

Nowhere did he simply say you make a bad choice you end up with cancer.

He gave an example of 30 smokers in a room vs 30 non smokers and estimating that the smokers just may wind up having better odds of cancer. I think that's pretty obvious. You don't?

He also said you can do all things right and end up with cancer, just bad odds. Have you read the thread? Or are you stuck on what one person responded to?

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/530737.page#8299336

The person -- OP -- is effectively saying that people make bad choices and end up with cancer.