Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:The fans were chanting “?ehitler ölmez vatan bölünmez” (translated from Turkish): "Martyrs live forever, the country is never divided". Furthermore, Turkish soccer fans ALWAYS whistle to show their support. This is misleading and furthering division. Someone yelled "muslims suck" during a moment of silence for Paris before the Lions vs. Packers game on Sunday, you can find bigots everywhere

How do you know that is what they were chanting? And why would you chant ANYTHING during a moment of silence? That is not a moment of silence. Are Turkish soccer fans incapable of being silent?

Got it from a turkish friend. Apparently in Turkish, its not even called a moment of silence but a "Sayg? durusu" meaning respectful stand. This could all be a big misunderstanding

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, I don't get your argument. Are you saying the reason that women are oppressed, Jews are hated and gays are under fear of death in all middle eastern muslim countries has nothing to do with the beliefs of the people who live there? Or is it that you think these people will immediately shed this upon entry to our country?

I think you are trying to change the topic now that it is clear that nobody is buying what you are selling.

Well, the majority of Americans are buying what I am selling, and all I am selling is a healthy dose of skepticism of the wisdom of the U.S. importing large numbers of people who hold anti-western beliefs. I suppose I am biased in that I have a lot of Jewish friends and considering there is not a single Muslim majority country where jews can freely practice their religion. But of course, that is racist to point out.

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, I don't get your argument. Are you saying the reason that women are oppressed, Jews are hated and gays are under fear of death in all middle eastern muslim countries has nothing to do with the beliefs of the people who live there? Or is it that you think these people will immediately shed this upon entry to our country?

I think you are trying to change the topic now that it is clear that nobody is buying what you are selling.

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, I don't get your argument. Are you saying the reason that women are oppressed, Jews are hated and gays are under fear of death in all middle eastern muslim countries has nothing to do with the beliefs of the people who live there? Or is it that you think these people will immediately shed this upon entry to our country?

A lot of people who enter our country from the middle east do not hate jews, oppress women, or hate gays in the first place. In fact, a lot of them are even *gasp* Christian.

A discussion about assimilation is fair, but American Muslims appear to assimilate fairly well to begin with. But your statement indicates that you are biased and probably very ignorant about the Middle East.

Grow up.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:What a strange post. Those are Turks, not Syrian refugees. Turkey is supporting many of the Jihadists who are the cause of the refugee problem in the first place. That's almost like blaming Palestinians for something the Israelis do.

Anti-western pro-jihad attitudes are wide spread among our Muslim allies in Turkey. But rejected by 100% of Syrians. Got it.

Pew research shows the vast majority of middle eastern muslims favor imposition of Sharia Law. But of course, this wouldn't apply the that bastion of secular liberalism that is Syria.

Syria actually is, or was, secular. I think it's a good bet that people fleeing jihadists are not fans of jihad. But go ahead and keep banking on stereotypes.

Jeff, I don't get your argument. Are you saying the reason that women are oppressed, Jews are hated and gays are under fear of death in all middle eastern muslim countries has nothing to do with the beliefs of the people who live there? Or is it that you think these people will immediately shed this upon entry to our country?

Muslima wrote:The fans were chanting “?ehitler ölmez vatan bölünmez” (translated from Turkish): "Martyrs live forever, the country is never divided". Furthermore, Turkish soccer fans ALWAYS whistle to show their support. This is misleading and furthering division. Someone yelled "muslims suck" during a moment of silence for Paris before the Lions vs. Packers game on Sunday, you can find bigots everywhere

How do you know that is what they were chanting? And why would you chant ANYTHING during a moment of silence? That is not a moment of silence. Are Turkish soccer fans incapable of being silent?

jsteele wrote:What a strange post. Those are Turks, not Syrian refugees. Turkey is supporting many of the Jihadists who are the cause of the refugee problem in the first place. That's almost like blaming Palestinians for something the Israelis do.

Anti-western pro-jihad attitudes are wide spread among our Muslim allies in Turkey. But rejected by 100% of Syrians. Got it.

Pew research shows the vast majority of middle eastern muslims favor imposition of Sharia Law. But of course, this wouldn't apply the that bastion of secular liberalism that is Syria.

The fans were chanting “?ehitler ölmez vatan bölünmez” (translated from Turkish): "Martyrs live forever, the country is never divided". Furthermore, Turkish soccer fans ALWAYS whistle to show their support. This is misleading and furthering division. Someone yelled "muslims suck" during a moment of silence for Paris before the Lions vs. Packers game on Sunday, you can find bigots everywhere

How does turkish people booing relate to the refugees and asylum seekers? Are there any turkish refugees? Doubt it.

Oh those Muslims, they're all the same!

Wow. More than just a few people

Were you under the impression that the Turkish hooligans booing at the game are asylum seekers?

What a strange post. Those are Turks, not Syrian refugees. Turkey is supporting many of the Jihadists who are the cause of the refugee problem in the first place. That's almost like blaming Palestinians for something the Israelis do.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3322708/Turkey-supporters-boo-minute-s-silence-victims-Paris-attacks-prior-team-s-friendly-against-Greece-Istanbul.html

But please believe us when we assure you all these asylum seekers love America and denounce terrorism. This from our ally.