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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how all that is happening with an adult assigned just for that student. Sounds like the school is failing to come up with a plan to help this kid.

The kid could be emotionally disturbed and there could be EMT/IEP meetings going on to help meet the child's needs such as getting the second person to help. The school getting the second person probably wasn't easy as it requires extra funding. The school is not allowed to just remove a child and they need all kinds of documentation to change placement for a more restrictive one. Seriously. As the PP's mentioned, it is FAPE - least restrictive environment for the child, access to a free and appropriate education.

This. We currently have a student like this in my school. There have been many meetings, and there has to be observations, testing, more meetings etc. to determine an appropriate placement for the student. It doesn't happen quickly for a multitude of reasons. We have an adult assigned to this student every hour of the day. But considering we're not allowed to touch students, it presents a problem. Staff members have been hit, kicked, bitten and injured trying to prevent the child from injuring themself. It is truly a heartbreaking situation all around.

I thought there was special training for teachers who might need to restrain an out of control kid.

I don't teach in VA. Where I live, we are told that if we touch a student in any way, our union can't protect us. We are told to get an administrator, which of course could take 2 or 3 minutes, or more.

Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.

Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, but not everyone is entitled to free access to a mainstream classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.

No parent bashing. The parent has legitimate concerns about their child's safety in the classroom. First talk with teacher about concerns. Then talk with principal about concerns. Start there and see, what their response is. If you are still not satisfied, take it up the chain of command to head of schools, super, etc. Children should feel safe in classroom.

I'm not "parent bashing;" otherwise I'd have made fun of her precious "snowflake."

FAPE is the law: http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/edlite-FAPE504.html

Children should feel safe in the classroom, but it's not a legal requirement. Allowing a kid access to an education is.

The school absolutely has a legal mandate to keep all students safe from verbal and physical harm. But it sounds like the child hasn't actually hurt anyone yet, so this is going to take a long time.

Sorry, OP. Document and report as best you can, but he might be in the classroom all year.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how all that is happening with an adult assigned just for that student. Sounds like the school is failing to come up with a plan to help this kid.

The kid could be emotionally disturbed and there could be EMT/IEP meetings going on to help meet the child's needs such as getting the second person to help. The school getting the second person probably wasn't easy as it requires extra funding. The school is not allowed to just remove a child and they need all kinds of documentation to change placement for a more restrictive one. Seriously. As the PP's mentioned, it is FAPE - least restrictive environment for the child, access to a free and appropriate education.

This. We currently have a student like this in my school. There have been many meetings, and there has to be observations, testing, more meetings etc. to determine an appropriate placement for the student. It doesn't happen quickly for a multitude of reasons. We have an adult assigned to this student every hour of the day. But considering we're not allowed to touch students, it presents a problem. Staff members have been hit, kicked, bitten and injured trying to prevent the child from injuring themself. It is truly a heartbreaking situation all around.

I thought there was special training for teachers who might need to restrain an out of control kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how all that is happening with an adult assigned just for that student. Sounds like the school is failing to come up with a plan to help this kid.

The kid could be emotionally disturbed and there could be EMT/IEP meetings going on to help meet the child's needs such as getting the second person to help. The school getting the second person probably wasn't easy as it requires extra funding. The school is not allowed to just remove a child and they need all kinds of documentation to change placement for a more restrictive one. Seriously. As the PP's mentioned, it is FAPE - least restrictive environment for the child, access to a free and appropriate education.

This. We currently have a student like this in my school. There have been many meetings, and there has to be observations, testing, more meetings etc. to determine an appropriate placement for the student. It doesn't happen quickly for a multitude of reasons. We have an adult assigned to this student every hour of the day. But considering we're not allowed to touch students, it presents a problem. Staff members have been hit, kicked, bitten and injured trying to prevent the child from injuring themself. It is truly a heartbreaking situation all around.

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Goodness, there was a child like this years ago in my son's K class. He had a classroom aide, and was relatively calm in class, but would act unpredictably in corridors, at recess and pick-up time. This was MCPS. I requested that DS not be placed in the same classroom with him the year after and that was basically all I could do. The request was honored, BTW. He has outwardly calmed down somewhat now, but from a few disturbing incidents that have continued to happen, I am persuaded that he is truly psychotic. The only child I have ever met who seems to enjoy hurting others.

Or, a kid who gets really overwhelmed in crowded and unstructured situations like corridors, recess, and pick up. Jesus, lady.

I don't want to relate the disturbing incidents that happened recently because they happened to my younger daughter and they are particular enough to out me. My children's school is an inclusive one, and I have volunteered there for years - I see kids of all stripes and they all have a large solid core of human goodness.
Not this one.
So don't "Jesus, lady" me.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how all that is happening with an adult assigned just for that student. Sounds like the school is failing to come up with a plan to help this kid.

The kid could be emotionally disturbed and there could be EMT/IEP meetings going on to help meet the child's needs such as getting the second person to help. The school getting the second person probably wasn't easy as it requires extra funding. The school is not allowed to just remove a child and they need all kinds of documentation to change placement for a more restrictive one. Seriously. As the PP's mentioned, it is FAPE - least restrictive environment for the child, access to a free and appropriate education.

Yes, but the aide should be trying to figure out his triggers, what helps him calm down, taking him out of the room when he needs to regroup, intervening before he can physically touch anyone, etc.---of course, in most schools the aides are just any warm body they can find who will work for 9 bucks an hour. Kids shouldn't be getting hurt with an aide right there assigned to him.

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Goodness, there was a child like this years ago in my son's K class. He had a classroom aide, and was relatively calm in class, but would act unpredictably in corridors, at recess and pick-up time. This was MCPS. I requested that DS not be placed in the same classroom with him the year after and that was basically all I could do. The request was honored, BTW. He has outwardly calmed down somewhat now, but from a few disturbing incidents that have continued to happen, I am persuaded that he is truly psychotic. The only child I have ever met who seems to enjoy hurting others.

Or, a kid who gets really overwhelmed in crowded and unstructured situations like corridors, recess, and pick up. Jesus, lady.

Goodness, there was a child like this years ago in my son's K class. He had a classroom aide, and was relatively calm in class, but would act unpredictably in corridors, at recess and pick-up time. This was MCPS. I requested that DS not be placed in the same classroom with him the year after and that was basically all I could do. The request was honored, BTW. He has outwardly calmed down somewhat now, but from a few disturbing incidents that have continued to happen, I am persuaded that he is truly psychotic. The only child I have ever met who seems to enjoy hurting others.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how all that is happening with an adult assigned just for that student. Sounds like the school is failing to come up with a plan to help this kid.

The kid could be emotionally disturbed and there could be EMT/IEP meetings going on to help meet the child's needs such as getting the second person to help. The school getting the second person probably wasn't easy as it requires extra funding. The school is not allowed to just remove a child and they need all kinds of documentation to change placement for a more restrictive one. Seriously. As the PP's mentioned, it is FAPE - least restrictive environment for the child, access to a free and appropriate education.

I don't understand how all that is happening with an adult assigned just for that student. Sounds like the school is failing to come up with a plan to help this kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.

No parent bashing. The parent has legitimate concerns about their child's safety in the classroom. First talk with teacher about concerns. Then talk with principal about concerns. Start there and see, what their response is. If you are still not satisfied, take it up the chain of command to head of schools, super, etc. Children should feel safe in classroom.

I'm not "parent bashing;" otherwise I'd have made fun of her precious "snowflake."

FAPE is the law: http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/edlite-FAPE504.html

Children should feel safe in the classroom, but it's not a legal requirement. Allowing a kid access to an education is.

Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.

No parent bashing. The parent has legitimate concerns about their child's safety in the classroom. First talk with teacher about concerns. Then talk with principal about concerns. Start there and see, what their response is. If you are still not satisfied, take it up the chain of command to head of schools, super, etc. Children should feel safe in classroom.

Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.

Since the start of school this child has been out of control to the point the other students in the class don't feel safe (frequently hits, pushes kids, draws blood, leaves marks, attackes with scissors and other objects, throws chairs, hits teacher, etc). The school's solution is to put another adult in the room to help protect the kids. At what point does the safety of the other 22 kids take priority over this child? As parents how can we assure are kids aren't afraid of going to school and getting hurt? How do we get the school to address this problem before a child is seriously hurt? It breaks my heart to see my 5 yr so terrified to go to school because the school is allowing this child to stay in the classroom.