Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:37     Subject: Re:Hillary and the FBI investigation
If the FBI finds that she demonstrated gross negligence (which she did considering Top Secret info was on her server) and IF the DOJ decides not to bring any charges or punish her in any way, many Americans (other than HRC’s most ardent supporters) will be livid. Other people have been punished for less.
This will not fare well for HRC.
My big question is IF they find she demonstrated gross negligence, or worse, and if she loses her security clearance as a result (as others have), how can she possibly serve as Commander-In-Chief?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:36     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI made clear Hillary Clinton is not the target of their investigation, so your whole bullshit premise fails. Republican desperation is showing.


Where do you get this? Link? They most certainly seem be be investigating Hillary and her e-mails.


The FBI is investigating the security of her email system. The investigation was launched after a non-criminal referral from the Justice Department. You can be forgiven for misunderstanding this because the "liberal" New York Times misreported it at the time and most of the media followed its lead. Clinton herself is not a target of the investigation. Of course, none of this means that the FBI couldn't uncover something criminal involving Clinton. But, the FBI can only recommend charges. It is up to the DOJ to press them. In the case of General Petraeus, the FBI recommended much stronger charges than the DOJ decided to bring. So, going by that precedent, Clinton probably has little cause for concern.


Don't quite know how to respond to this. The FBI does not investigate computer servers. They investigate the people who put them together and the folks that communicate on them. HRC may well be as innocent as a newborn lamb on this, but paraphrasing their vendor in Colorado , "This looks like some shaddy shit". We'll see in due time.


They are investigating whether the servers were ever compromised, and whether that might have revealed classified information or otherwise jeopardized national security. If they discover that did happen, the next step will be to determine who is culpable, whether it was intentional or deliberate, etc., and then whether charges should be filed.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:32     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI made clear Hillary Clinton is not the target of their investigation, so your whole bullshit premise fails. Republican desperation is showing.


Where do you get this? Link? They most certainly seem be be investigating Hillary and her e-mails.


The FBI is investigating the security of her email system. The investigation was launched after a non-criminal referral from the Justice Department. You can be forgiven for misunderstanding this because the "liberal" New York Times misreported it at the time and most of the media followed its lead. Clinton herself is not a target of the investigation. Of course, none of this means that the FBI couldn't uncover something criminal involving Clinton. But, the FBI can only recommend charges. It is up to the DOJ to press them. In the case of General Petraeus, the FBI recommended much stronger charges than the DOJ decided to bring. So, going by that precedent, Clinton probably has little cause for concern.


Don't quite know how to respond to this. The FBI does not investigate computer servers. They investigate the people who put them together and the folks that communicate on them. HRC may well be as innocent as a newborn lamb on this, but paraphrasing their vendor in Colorado , "This looks like some shaddy shit". We'll see in due time.
jsteele
Post 10/16/2015 17:22     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The FBI made clear Hillary Clinton is not the target of their investigation, so your whole bullshit premise fails. Republican desperation is showing.


Where do you get this? Link? They most certainly seem be be investigating Hillary and her e-mails.


The FBI is investigating the security of her email system. The investigation was launched after a non-criminal referral from the Justice Department. You can be forgiven for misunderstanding this because the "liberal" New York Times misreported it at the time and most of the media followed its lead. Clinton herself is not a target of the investigation. Of course, none of this means that the FBI couldn't uncover something criminal involving Clinton. But, the FBI can only recommend charges. It is up to the DOJ to press them. In the case of General Petraeus, the FBI recommended much stronger charges than the DOJ decided to bring. So, going by that precedent, Clinton probably has little cause for concern.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:17     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:The FBI made clear Hillary Clinton is not the target of their investigation, so your whole bullshit premise fails. Republican desperation is showing.


Where do you get this? Link? They most certainly seem be be investigating Hillary and her e-mails.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:11     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:The FBI made clear Hillary Clinton is not the target of their investigation, so your whole bullshit premise fails. Republican desperation is showing.


Huh?? Who do you think they are investigating, Bush??
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:08     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
The FBI made clear Hillary Clinton is not the target of their investigation, so your whole bullshit premise fails. Republican desperation is showing.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:07     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s seems the FBI investigation presents a huge risk to Hillary, even if the chances of an indictment are low.

I have no idea how long the FBI will take before they reach a conclusion. Any way to hazard a guess on timing?

Scenario 1:
I would imagine that if Hillary gets indicted (is that even the right word?) before the nomination she has to drop out. Agree/disagree?

Scenario 2:
What happens if she gets indicted after the nomination, but a trial date is set after a potential inauguration? Let’s suppose that she could even be elected president prior to trial. What happens then?


This is why Biden is holding off. He knows Obama wants her indicted and he will swoop in to get the nomination when this happens.


This makes no sense.


Obama hates Hillary. He kinda likes Biden
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:06     Subject: Re:Hillary and the FBI investigation

It's a conspiracy
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:06     Subject: Re:Hillary and the FBI investigation

This is why Biden is holding off. He knows Obama wants her indicted and he will swoop in to get the nomination when this happens.


Not so sure. I think Obama is watching Hillary to see what she will do.

Loretta Lynch gets to decide whether or not to prosecute her. There's plenty already in the public eye to indicate that she should be charged for "gross negligence." "Obstruction of Justice" is also a problem. But, if DOJ does not pursue it, it is moot.





Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:03     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s seems the FBI investigation presents a huge risk to Hillary, even if the chances of an indictment are low.

I have no idea how long the FBI will take before they reach a conclusion. Any way to hazard a guess on timing?

Scenario 1:
I would imagine that if Hillary gets indicted (is that even the right word?) before the nomination she has to drop out. Agree/disagree?

Scenario 2:
What happens if she gets indicted after the nomination, but a trial date is set after a potential inauguration? Let’s suppose that she could even be elected president prior to trial. What happens then?


This is why Biden is holding off. He knows Obama wants her indicted and he will swoop in to get the nomination when this happens.


This makes no sense.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 17:01     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:It’s seems the FBI investigation presents a huge risk to Hillary, even if the chances of an indictment are low.

I have no idea how long the FBI will take before they reach a conclusion. Any way to hazard a guess on timing?

Scenario 1:
I would imagine that if Hillary gets indicted (is that even the right word?) before the nomination she has to drop out. Agree/disagree?

Scenario 2:
What happens if she gets indicted after the nomination, but a trial date is set after a potential inauguration? Let’s suppose that she could even be elected president prior to trial. What happens then?


This is why Biden is holding off. He knows Obama wants her indicted and he will swoop in to get the nomination when this happens.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 16:45     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation

Well, if she's elected president she can pardon herself. Problem solved.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 16:45     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
Anonymous wrote:It’s seems the FBI investigation presents a huge risk to Hillary, even if the chances of an indictment are low.

I have no idea how long the FBI will take before they reach a conclusion. Any way to hazard a guess on timing?

Scenario 1:
I would imagine that if Hillary gets indicted (is that even the right word?) before the nomination she has to drop out. Agree/disagree?

Scenario 2:
What happens if she gets indicted after the nomination, but a trial date is set after a potential inauguration? Let’s suppose that she could even be elected president prior to trial. What happens then?


Wouldn't be the first time this has happened during a Clinton presidency.

But don't worry, Sid Blumenthal is on the case. He's a junk yard dog.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2015 16:43     Subject: Hillary and the FBI investigation
It’s seems the FBI investigation presents a huge risk to Hillary, even if the chances of an indictment are low.

I have no idea how long the FBI will take before they reach a conclusion. Any way to hazard a guess on timing?

Scenario 1:
I would imagine that if Hillary gets indicted (is that even the right word?) before the nomination she has to drop out. Agree/disagree?

Scenario 2:
What happens if she gets indicted after the nomination, but a trial date is set after a potential inauguration? Let’s suppose that she could even be elected president prior to trial. What happens then?