Anonymous wrote:

Well you need to learn the rules of grammar at some point...and the teacher flat out told us that grammar is not part of the curriculum.

What do you mean by "grammar"? This is a sincere question. Perhaps the teacher thought you meant diagramming sentences, which is, in fact, not part of the curriculum. I think it's unlikely that the teacher thinks that spelling, subject-verb agreement, punctuation, etc. are irrelevant and will ignore things in the students' written work that are incorrect. Or, if the teacher does, that's a teacher problem, not a curriculum problem.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are we talking about ES mostly here? Can someone with MS and HS kids confirm that English grammar isn't taught in school? I wouldn't expect it to be taught in ES.

???

When do you think a child should learn punctuation, basic grammar rules, etc?

I was diagramming sentences in 5th grade...but I went to catholic school.

This is something that only America does, and it's an invention of the late 19th century.

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2014/08/22/341898975/a-picture-of-language-the-fading-art-of-diagramming-sentences

It's clearly not necessary for learning grammar.

Well you need to learn the rules of grammar at some point...and the teacher flat out told us that grammar is not part of the curriculum.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are we talking about ES mostly here? Can someone with MS and HS kids confirm that English grammar isn't taught in school? I wouldn't expect it to be taught in ES.

???

When do you think a child should learn punctuation, basic grammar rules, etc?

I was diagramming sentences in 5th grade...but I went to catholic school.

This is something that only America does, and it's an invention of the late 19th century.

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2014/08/22/341898975/a-picture-of-language-the-fading-art-of-diagramming-sentences

It's clearly not necessary for learning grammar.

Anonymous wrote:

How will future generations read the Constitution if they don't know cursive?

In print, like everybody else since 1787.

Or they will be able to read the formal manuscript version written in 18th century legal handwriting, even though they didn't learn to write 21st century cursive in school. Or maybe they won't be able to, but that's ok too.

Anonymous wrote:My now 7th grader never learned cursive. Not going to waste the time to teach him. They will never need it. My signature is some sort of cursive/print hybrid, most others you can't even read. They will type everything and even now I've signed documents by initialing them online.

How will future generations read the Constitution if they don't know cursive?

Anonymous wrote:Are we talking about ES mostly here? Can someone with MS and HS kids confirm that English grammar isn't taught in school? I wouldn't expect it to be taught in ES.

???

When do you think a child should learn punctuation, basic grammar rules, etc?

I was diagramming sentences in 5th grade...but I went to catholic school.

Are we talking about ES mostly here? Can someone with MS and HS kids confirm that English grammar isn't taught in school? I wouldn't expect it to be taught in ES.

My now 7th grader never learned cursive. Not going to waste the time to teach him. They will never need it. My signature is some sort of cursive/print hybrid, most others you can't even read. They will type everything and even now I've signed documents by initialing them online.

Anonymous wrote:They aren't really teaching grammar in mcps. They aren't teaching cursive. They will introduce multiplication facts, but having been through this with my older child I know what that means.

So I need to supplement for my third grader.

Anyone else?

"They" aren't, who? I don't know what you mean by teaching grammar, but my child definitely was taught cursive in third grade last year. And there was plenty of class time spent on multiplication facts, in contrast to my older child pre-2.0, where the teachers told us that it was the parents' responsibility to teach the child the math facts outside of school.

I don't care about them teaching cursive, by the way. I learned cursive in elementary school, and I wrote in cursive until I was allowed to stop in high school, and I've written in print ever since. My partner was the same.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC learned cursive in MCPS in 3rd grade under 2.0. Also, in 3rd, DC learned multiplication by rote using flash cards that the teacher gave out (paper cut out). They also played multiplication games where they had to answer quickly to beat the other team. DC got pretty quick with the multiplication facts up to 12. We did practice the flash cards at home sometimes.

Sounds like your child's teacher isn't that great.

Or maybe OP's kids aren't that smart.

Nice, pp.

I'm merely reporting what the teacher said at BTSN. My older child learned cursive in third at the same school, but this year they aren't doing it.
They don't teach grammar in a formal way in mcps...that's a fact. At our school they introduced multiplication but made it clear that we had to drill at home because they wouldn't have time in class.

All the parents seemed sad and annoyed.

Fwiw, we are in a desirable school pyramid...not that it means anything when you look at the bottom line.

I'm the PP with the kid who learned cursive in class.

We did flash cards at home and a few math websites. I think mcps website has some suggestions, and also the teacher recommended a few (I can't remember what they were). Just google it.

As for grammar, my DC is in 5th now. I don't think they had much formal grammar lessons, but I think reading a ton helps with grammar.

As for cursive, just get a workbook. I think also the Agenda book had some cursive lessons on the back (I think). My DC liked learning cursive, but TBH, my DC hardly writes now. Most of the assignments are typed on Google Docs.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC learned cursive in MCPS in 3rd grade under 2.0. Also, in 3rd, DC learned multiplication by rote using flash cards that the teacher gave out (paper cut out). They also played multiplication games where they had to answer quickly to beat the other team. DC got pretty quick with the multiplication facts up to 12. We did practice the flash cards at home sometimes.

Sounds like your child's teacher isn't that great.

Or maybe OP's kids aren't that smart.

Nice, pp.

I'm merely reporting what the teacher said at BTSN. My older child learned cursive in third at the same school, but this year they aren't doing it.
They don't teach grammar in a formal way in mcps...that's a fact. At our school they introduced multiplication but made it clear that we had to drill at home because they wouldn't have time in class.

All the parents seemed sad and annoyed.

Fwiw, we are in a desirable school pyramid...not that it means anything when you look at the bottom line.

Anonymous wrote:My DC learned cursive in MCPS in 3rd grade under 2.0. Also, in 3rd, DC learned multiplication by rote using flash cards that the teacher gave out (paper cut out). They also played multiplication games where they had to answer quickly to beat the other team. DC got pretty quick with the multiplication facts up to 12. We did practice the flash cards at home sometimes.

Sounds like your child's teacher isn't that great.

Or maybe OP's kids aren't that smart.

Of course we supplement. Extra academics, extra sports, etc.

My DC learned cursive in MCPS in 3rd grade under 2.0. Also, in 3rd, DC learned multiplication by rote using flash cards that the teacher gave out (paper cut out). They also played multiplication games where they had to answer quickly to beat the other team. DC got pretty quick with the multiplication facts up to 12. We did practice the flash cards at home sometimes.

Sounds like your child's teacher isn't that great.

They aren't really teaching grammar in mcps. They aren't teaching cursive. They will introduce multiplication facts, but having been through this with my older child I know what that means.

So I need to supplement for my third grader.

Anyone else?