Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push these "liberals" on other options for integrating their neighborhoods’ schools by race and class and you'll find stone walls. They gently explain that zoning to make housing more affordable in their wealthy enclaves wouldn't suit “the neighborhood's ecology." They'll explain that busing or flexible enrollment boundaries would "change the character" of their wealthy neighborhood schools.

https://www.the74million.org/article/opinion-liberals-push-to-correct-inequality-just-not-if-it-involves-opening-up-our-neighborhood-schools

So I take it, OP, that you oppose basing school enrollment on neighborhood because it ends up with class-segregated schools? Or you think neighborhoods should be desegregated by using inclusive zoning and affordable house? Good for you!

I am not opposed to affordable housing per se, but if DC is going to provide affordable housing, then they should not leave out the huge swath of people making more than $100,000 to about $150,000 or so who are priced out of many neighborhoods. If they don't this large swath in the middle, then I am opposed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push these "liberals" on other options for integrating their neighborhoods’ schools by race and class and you'll find stone walls. They gently explain that zoning to make housing more affordable in their wealthy enclaves wouldn't suit “the neighborhood's ecology." They'll explain that busing or flexible enrollment boundaries would "change the character" of their wealthy neighborhood schools.

https://www.the74million.org/article/opinion-liberals-push-to-correct-inequality-just-not-if-it-involves-opening-up-our-neighborhood-schools

So I take it, OP, that you oppose basing school enrollment on neighborhood because it ends up with class-segregated schools? Or you think neighborhoods should be desegregated by using inclusive zoning and affordable house? Good for you!

I support more open enrollment practices and am deeply skeptical of people who say that change isn't needed because DCPS is making ALL schools better.

Anonymous wrote:Push these "liberals" on other options for integrating their neighborhoods’ schools by race and class and you'll find stone walls. They gently explain that zoning to make housing more affordable in their wealthy enclaves wouldn't suit “the neighborhood's ecology." They'll explain that busing or flexible enrollment boundaries would "change the character" of their wealthy neighborhood schools.

https://www.the74million.org/article/opinion-liberals-push-to-correct-inequality-just-not-if-it-involves-opening-up-our-neighborhood-schools

So I take it, OP, that you oppose basing school enrollment on neighborhood because it ends up with class-segregated schools? Or you think neighborhoods should be desegregated by using inclusive zoning and affordable house? Good for you!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

I agree that reformist Democrats are better than Reublicans on education. Is that enough for you?

I don't care which is better on education. I just think we should include the fact that some conservatives have the same views. And FWIW I don't trust reformist Democrats either - but that's another discussion.

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

I agree that reformist Democrats are better than Reublicans on education. Is that enough for you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

Yes but conservatives are very open and transparent about their views on this.

The liberals are hypocrites in the sense of the old saying "Do as I say, not as I do"

There is a huge difference.

I am a liberal and I have to agree with this. Well-educated affluent liberals and conservatives in DC make similar choices about schools, but with liberals there is more hand wringing and mental acrobatics to reconcile choices made with a liberal/progressive worldview.

Actually let's be more precise: happily participating in economic segregation is perfectly consistent with liberalism, but not progressivism (aka soft socialism).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

Yes but conservatives are very open and transparent about their views on this.

The liberals are hypocrites in the sense of the old saying "Do as I say, not as I do"

There is a huge difference.

Oh so you're okay with discriminating against poor children as long as people are honest about it? smh

No. But it is much worse to be a hypocrite about it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

Yes but conservatives are very open and transparent about their views on this.

The liberals are hypocrites in the sense of the old saying "Do as I say, not as I do"

There is a huge difference.

Oh so you're okay with discriminating against poor children as long as people are honest about it? smh

Pp again - which supports my suspicion that you care more about attacking liberals than you care about helping those children. Again, smh.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

Yes but conservatives are very open and transparent about their views on this.

The liberals are hypocrites in the sense of the old saying "Do as I say, not as I do"

There is a huge difference.

Oh so you're okay with discriminating against poor children as long as people are honest about it? smh

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

Yes but conservatives are very open and transparent about their views on this.

The liberals are hypocrites in the sense of the old saying "Do as I say, not as I do"

There is a huge difference.

First of all, I agree with what the guy says and I'm a liberal. Second, the behavior he describes is true of conservatives as well. He's just appealing to liberals because he is one himself and he thinks he has a shot at influencing them. If you want to make this some kind of generalized attack at liberals, be sure you include the conservatives who have the very same views about schools

I'm not going to click on some silly opinion article and I don't know exactly what your point is, but I will say this: Most parents value educational quality over diversity. I don't think anyone will argue with you about that.

Anonymous wrote:How many times is this article going to get posted?

Until morale improves.

How many times is this article going to get posted?

Push these "liberals" on other options for integrating their neighborhoods’ schools by race and class and you'll find stone walls. They gently explain that zoning to make housing more affordable in their wealthy enclaves wouldn't suit “the neighborhood's ecology." They'll explain that busing or flexible enrollment boundaries would "change the character" of their wealthy neighborhood schools.

https://www.the74million.org/article/opinion-liberals-push-to-correct-inequality-just-not-if-it-involves-opening-up-our-neighborhood-schools