Anonymous wrote:More IB students are staying for fourth and fifth grade. Also, the OOB families in those grades have often been with the school for several years and are very involved. The high OOB is a reflection of the boundary, which includes less children than other neighborhoods, high incomes and proximity of private schools. All of the families at Hyde are great, both IB and OOB. OOB is where some of the diversity comes from that makes Hyde such a special place. Many would accurately note that the OOB parents are often the ones that you will see volunteering and doing much that makes the school special. Once you integrate in the community, you will not think in terms of IB and OOB, just a wonderful community of great families from all over the city who share common values. Keep in mind that test scores are over-rated, as they reflect parental education levels more than instructional quality. There is likely more learner diversity in the classroom at Hyde than at some of the other schools mentioned, though at a very manageable level, and classroom instruction is very rigorous. The learner diversity reflects that our child is in a class where people come from different backgrounds, which is something that we value, without preventing her from working at her level.

We reluctantly left Hyde this year after 6 years (rising 5th grader) simply because they do not challenge higher performing students. All of the above concerning the community, however, is accurate. I would not hesitate sending my kid through 3rd grade presently but that may change.

More IB students are staying for fourth and fifth grade. Also, the OOB families in those grades have often been with the school for several years and are very involved. The high OOB is a reflection of the boundary, which includes less children than other neighborhoods, high incomes and proximity of private schools. All of the families at Hyde are great, both IB and OOB. OOB is where some of the diversity comes from that makes Hyde such a special place. Many would accurately note that the OOB parents are often the ones that you will see volunteering and doing much that makes the school special. Once you integrate in the community, you will not think in terms of IB and OOB, just a wonderful community of great families from all over the city who share common values. Keep in mind that test scores are over-rated, as they reflect parental education levels more than instructional quality. There is likely more learner diversity in the classroom at Hyde than at some of the other schools mentioned, though at a very manageable level, and classroom instruction is very rigorous. The learner diversity reflects that our child is in a class where people come from different backgrounds, which is something that we value, without preventing her from working at her level.

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Anonymous wrote:My kindergartener just got off the WL for Hyde-Addison, and we did a tour this morning. Seems nice enough; will probably be better once the construction is complete. Test scores seem to be slightly below Ross and Eaton, maybe on par with or slightly higher than Stoddert. Should we be concerned that it's 60% OOB? Does anyone have some insight into the school? Thanks.

Ross actually has the highest test scores in the city. Higher than Janney, Lafayette and Mann.

This is, at best, marginally true.

For the last two years, of Janney, Mann and Ross, Ross had the highest percentage of (Proficient or Advanced) in reading. Before the last two years, Mann had higher percentages than the others. In math, Mann has been and remains the highest percentage of (Proficient or Advanced).

I'm not trying to denigrate Ross at all. It appears to be a very good school. (I don't know anything about it personally.) But you made a quantitative statement and quantitative statements need to be based entirely on the data.

And Janney has the highest (or tied) percentage of advanced in both reading and math, is marginally below Ross and Mann on the combination proficient and advanced in math (89 (J) v 92 (R) and 94 (M)) and is tied with Mann for the highest in combination reading scores (91(J) v. 90 (R) and 91(M)). They are all different sized schools (693 students (J) v. 302 (M) and 166 (R)) with different demographics. Test scores fluctuate year over year and the same parents that worry about the test scores of a school also do not want a school that "teaches to the test" so I find this all hard to quantify in a rational way to determine exactly which is the "best" or whether it matters at this level. I am willing to assert that they all are great schools.

Getting back to Hyde. My DCs do not go but many families at my children's preschool (which was/is in that neighborhood) sent their children and were very happy. My children are at a JKLM that is our IB school and I would not hesitate to send my children to Hyde.

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Anonymous wrote:My kindergartener just got off the WL for Hyde-Addison, and we did a tour this morning. Seems nice enough; will probably be better once the construction is complete. Test scores seem to be slightly below Ross and Eaton, maybe on par with or slightly higher than Stoddert. Should we be concerned that it's 60% OOB? Does anyone have some insight into the school? Thanks.

Ross actually has the highest test scores in the city. Higher than Janney, Lafayette and Mann.

This is, at best, marginally true.

For the last two years, of Janney, Mann and Ross, Ross had the highest percentage of (Proficient or Advanced) in reading. Before the last two years, Mann had higher percentages than the others. In math, Mann has been and remains the highest percentage of (Proficient or Advanced).

I'm not trying to denigrate Ross at all. It appears to be a very good school. (I don't know anything about it personally.) But you made a quantitative statement and quantitative statements need to be based entirely on the data.

Anonymous wrote:My kindergartener just got off the WL for Hyde-Addison, and we did a tour this morning. Seems nice enough; will probably be better once the construction is complete. Test scores seem to be slightly below Ross and Eaton, maybe on par with or slightly higher than Stoddert. Should we be concerned that it's 60% OOB? Does anyone have some insight into the school? Thanks.

Ross actually has the highest test scores in the city. Higher than Janney, Lafayette and Mann.

Anonymous wrote: In fact the PTA had a lot of participation from the OOB families. The most important factor for my kid was teacher quality, not the percentage of OOB students.

I heard the opposite, actually. Does anyone know what the family engagement is like?

Anonymous wrote:It's a great school. Tends to have more inbound in early years. Then families outgrow their tiny Georgetown places and move to burbs. Other in bound types start early for finding a charter middle school option. Many international families attend but move when they are posted elsewhere. Yes in bounds includes some larger homes and townhouses but those addresses typically appear in the private school family directories.

Stereotypes....stereotypes.....many IB family stay at H-A till 4th grade and then switch to other schools because it's easier to get into another place at that stage. BUT then....do not leave "their tiny Georgetown places"....
Many people actually like the city as strange as that might it seem to some.

Of course, if in the meantime you have become the stereotypical fat, gun-owner, SUV-driving, american, you might need more space to store all your junk.

I don't think I could say it any better than George Carlin...(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac).

Ohhh by the way, Hyde-Addison it's a really nice school, enjoy it.

There are not typically a lot of Hyde parents on this forum - so might try to look for advice directly from some parents there (I'd suggest maybe reaching out to the PTA or others there (although they will of course often be 'into' the school - but you could ask if they could connect you to others in your kids' potential classes etc). We're not at Hyde but close by. Lots of changes in recent years. It has had the low OOB rates, but the IB rates are climbing (and most of the PreK were IB) and per parents in the neighborhood many are hoping and wanting to continue longer at the school and are getting involved in the 'future of Hardy' events and discussions. There traditionally is also fall off of IB as kids get older and the affluent IB families look for privates. But - as a feeder, Hyde sends the most kids to Hardy -- so the kids that go there do tend to build a nice cohort that in staying together longer (a mix of IB and OOB).

This won't be helpful because my kid is in college and she attended Hyde many years ago but she started as an IB student and later attended out of boundaries. At the time it seemed like a lot of OOB families were from Capitol Hill, Southwest, and Bolling Airforce Base but that was just my impression, I don't know for sure.

What I did notice was that a whole bunch of kids from in-boundaries left after 2nd grade. I'm assuming a lot went private but I suppose nowadays they might go to charters as well. At the time I was surprised by it but later I found out that 3rd grade is an entry point for private school.

At any rate, we had a great experience with Hyde and the other OOB students were generally from very committed families. In fact the PTA had a lot of participation from the OOB families. The most important factor for my kid was teacher quality, not the percentage of OOB students. Most of her teachers were wonderful but fourth grade was a bit of a wash (that teacher is definitely gone).

Of course, this was, say, 15 years ago and there's been a lot of turnover (except that I think Mr. C is still running aftercare. Loved him!) since then so of course you're not going to make a decision based on our experience. But this is just to say that the increasing OOB population was not an issue for us. Anybody who goes to the effort to get their kid into Hyde-Addison and get him/her over there is someone who is committed to their kid's education.

We just started this year and we are super impressed. Think all of our class is IB (for PK3) but I am not totally sure. Really blown away at how warm and friendly the school is, and how much my child likes it.

Anonymous wrote:I am amused that an OOB family is concerned about other OOB families.

This is OP, and I agree!

I am amused that an OOB family is concerned about other OOB families.

It's a great school. Tends to have more inbound in early years. Then families outgrow their tiny Georgetown places and move to burbs. Other in bound types start early for finding a charter middle school option. Many international families attend but move when they are posted elsewhere. Yes in bounds includes some larger homes and townhouses but those addresses typically appear in the private school family directories.

Perhaps you should be concerned if the parents are anything like yourself. I take it you couldn't come up with any more narrowly-focused questions or share concerns about the school your kid currently attends. It's hard to help those who can't help themselves.

My kindergartener just got off the WL for Hyde-Addison, and we did a tour this morning. Seems nice enough; will probably be better once the construction is complete. Test scores seem to be slightly below Ross and Eaton, maybe on par with or slightly higher than Stoddert. Should we be concerned that it's 60% OOB? Does anyone have some insight into the school? Thanks.