Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That is exactly what prompted me to ask about their compensations (having to tell them my current and desired salary). is there a way to not answer this question for future applications?
I've been job hunting for the last few months, and I haven't found a way around it. If the online application is automated, it usually won't accept it without the number. I had an interview and an offer a while back, and it definitely hurt me that they knew my current salary. I ultimately turned it down. But that was after some back and forth.
I had another interview recently with a private company. I avoided the question when they asked my current salary by telling them the range I was hoping for (this was on the preliminary phone interview). Then for the in-person interview, they wanted me to fill out their application (even though all of the relevant information was on my resume). And their application asked for complete salary history. I left all of those spaces blank. I never heard back from them after the interview, so I don't know if that was an issue. I thought it all went well. If anything, I was overqualified. They never gave me a range, even though I asked. And they didn't really say much about my ideal range, but they still brought me in for an interview, so I figured that it was okay.
I feel like the entire process stacks everything against the job seeker. It's such a soul-sucking process. I've learned (and most people agree) that it's very hard to get significant raises once you're in, especially, sadly, if you are a long-term employee. The time to really negotiate for the salary you want is when you are hired. But I feel like the trend of asking for salary history is the way employers reduce any leverage you have. They think offering your current salary or very slightly above is fine. But if the position your are applying involves more responsibility or longer hours, it's not an apples to apples comparison.
The whole thing is daunting. *rant over*
Then don't offer your salary history. It's really that simple.
Have you never applied for a job online? Most require you to put a number in for current salary. You cannot submit the application without providing a number. It terrible. This trend may change though, many Companies are changing this practice because its one of the main factors that leads to gender income inequality. Google has stopped this practice, and an article in the Washington Post yesterday said that the federal government is changing its policy on requiring salary information as well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That is exactly what prompted me to ask about their compensations (having to tell them my current and desired salary). is there a way to not answer this question for future applications?
I've been job hunting for the last few months, and I haven't found a way around it. If the online application is automated, it usually won't accept it without the number. I had an interview and an offer a while back, and it definitely hurt me that they knew my current salary. I ultimately turned it down. But that was after some back and forth.
I had another interview recently with a private company. I avoided the question when they asked my current salary by telling them the range I was hoping for (this was on the preliminary phone interview). Then for the in-person interview, they wanted me to fill out their application (even though all of the relevant information was on my resume). And their application asked for complete salary history. I left all of those spaces blank. I never heard back from them after the interview, so I don't know if that was an issue. I thought it all went well. If anything, I was overqualified. They never gave me a range, even though I asked. And they didn't really say much about my ideal range, but they still brought me in for an interview, so I figured that it was okay.
I feel like the entire process stacks everything against the job seeker. It's such a soul-sucking process. I've learned (and most people agree) that it's very hard to get significant raises once you're in, especially, sadly, if you are a long-term employee. The time to really negotiate for the salary you want is when you are hired. But I feel like the trend of asking for salary history is the way employers reduce any leverage you have. They think offering your current salary or very slightly above is fine. But if the position your are applying involves more responsibility or longer hours, it's not an apples to apples comparison.
The whole thing is daunting. *rant over*
Then don't offer your salary history. It's really that simple.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That is exactly what prompted me to ask about their compensations (having to tell them my current and desired salary). is there a way to not answer this question for future applications?
I've been job hunting for the last few months, and I haven't found a way around it. If the online application is automated, it usually won't accept it without the number. I had an interview and an offer a while back, and it definitely hurt me that they knew my current salary. I ultimately turned it down. But that was after some back and forth.
I had another interview recently with a private company. I avoided the question when they asked my current salary by telling them the range I was hoping for (this was on the preliminary phone interview). Then for the in-person interview, they wanted me to fill out their application (even though all of the relevant information was on my resume). And their application asked for complete salary history. I left all of those spaces blank. I never heard back from them after the interview, so I don't know if that was an issue. I thought it all went well. If anything, I was overqualified. They never gave me a range, even though I asked. And they didn't really say much about my ideal range, but they still brought me in for an interview, so I figured that it was okay.
I feel like the entire process stacks everything against the job seeker. It's such a soul-sucking process. I've learned (and most people agree) that it's very hard to get significant raises once you're in, especially, sadly, if you are a long-term employee. The time to really negotiate for the salary you want is when you are hired. But I feel like the trend of asking for salary history is the way employers reduce any leverage you have. They think offering your current salary or very slightly above is fine. But if the position your are applying involves more responsibility or longer hours, it's not an apples to apples comparison.
The whole thing is daunting. *rant over*
Anonymous wrote:That is exactly what prompted me to ask about their compensations (having to tell them my current and desired salary). is there a way to not answer this question for future applications?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised people still apply for a position without knowing the salary range...
Isn't it ridiculous? Too bad all the employers don't want to tell you when you are applying...
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised people still apply for a position without knowing the salary range...