Sometimes jobs seem the same,but the position descriptions are actually in different job series. If this is the case, you cannot lateral in.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you currently in the competitive service?

The only reason I could see this being necessary is if you are currently in the excepted service and it is a competitive service job.

Or there is a Collective Bargaining Agreement (Union Agreement) that states that position has to be competed.

Op here ok this might be it. Just annoyed cause lots of pp did it without applying.

Anonymous wrote:Are you currently in the competitive service?

The only reason I could see this being necessary is if you are currently in the excepted service and it is a competitive service job.

Or there is a Collective Bargaining Agreement (Union Agreement) that states that position has to be competed.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are not an attorney, you should be fine. Preselection should NOT happen, so it is possible they find someone better, but we all know that game (if they love you and are generally loyal folks).

Why make the exception for an attorney? I don't follow. Or are making the excepted service point from above?

Because your lack of competitive status in those options mean you have to compete for the first time. There are some good tips if that is you, out there.

Anonymous wrote:As long as you are not an attorney, you should be fine. Preselection should NOT happen, so it is possible they find someone better, but we all know that game (if they love you and are generally loyal folks).

Why make the exception for an attorney? I don't follow. Or are making the excepted service point from above?

As long as you are not an attorney, you should be fine. Preselection should NOT happen, so it is possible they find someone better, but we all know that game (if they love you and are generally loyal folks).

Anonymous wrote:All of my reassignments within my agency have been done without USAjobs. I would go back to HR to be sure this is correct.

That usually the case unless the job (OP's new position) is already posted.

All of my reassignments within my agency have been done without USAjobs. I would go back to HR to be sure this is correct.

I think HR is bullshitting you.

We have to go through USA Jobs for promotions, but if you're not making more money, should be simple to transfer boss's name. Is it a different job series?

Oh and if you apply and don't make the cert list, they will just have you reapply over again. I've seen it happen often. I feel bad for the poor schmucks who apply for that job and think they have a chance.

Anonymous wrote:Are you currently in the competitive service?

The only reason I could see this being necessary is if you are currently in the excepted service and it is a competitive service job.

I want to move and I am in the competitive series. Almost exact same job, just different team.

Are you currently in the competitive service?

The only reason I could see this being necessary is if you are currently in the excepted service and it is a competitive service job.

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Anonymous wrote:That doesn't sound right. What happens if you don't apply?

Or worse if I apply and somehow don't make the cert list?

Back to your current job, I suppose... OP - do you want to move?

Anonymous wrote:That doesn't sound right. What happens if you don't apply?

Or worse if I apply and somehow don't make the cert list?

That doesn't sound right. What happens if you don't apply?

I was offered to be reassigned to a different position in the same office at the same grade. HR told me a date was negotiated between my current manager and future manager. A week later HR tells me I have to apply via usa jobs for the posting. Has anybody had success with a reassignment without going through USA Jobs?