Anonymous wrote:Widra at SG recommends the same. But my insurance does not allow a freeze all cycle - either transfer something or they don't pay. So did fresh and BFN.

I think the key word missing is "plan" to transfer something or they don't pay. For women who go into IVF and then none make it to 3/5 day, they are still covered. Or if your lining deteriorates, or you overstim and freeze-all, they will still cover. That's how it was explained to me.

OP, I had frozen and fresh and the frozen transfers were the only ones that worked.

Good luck!

Widra at SG recommends the same. But my insurance does not allow a freeze all cycle - either transfer something or they don't pay. So did fresh and BFN.

Yup CCRM now almost only does frozen. Some of the best clinics in the country are moving towards frozen exclusively. GWU seems to be the first in DC to take this approach. All I can say is that it worked for me!

I've had a BFP on a fresh cycle and one on a frozen. If doc recommends a frozen though...go for it. Better to let body rest.

Sorry "chance"

CCRM does almost exclusively FET. There is research that says waiting gives your body a change to get back to what it would be like if you naturally conceived. I've looked at the SART data for Shady Grove, GW, Cornell, and CCRM, and the FET live birth rates are all unanimously higher than fresh. It doesn't seem to make sense, but that's what the stats say.

Sorry, should say stats for fresh transfers...

I did two fresh (one 3 day, one 5 day) but our FET was the successful cycle. I think the stats for drag used to be better, but I think that has changed pretty recently. Good luck!

I had planned to do frozen b/c we wanted to do PGD but we only ended up with 4 follicles so they recommended doing the fresh 3 day transfer instead.

Anonymous wrote:OP that sounds like bs from your RE. Patients do 3 or 5/6 day transfers all the time.

Op here, that was my initial thought too, but they seem to not always take and then a subsequent frozen cycle works.... I just keep hearing frozen seems to be the way to go because your body's hormones can go back to normal and things align to that of a natural cycle.

Anonymous wrote:Are you a patient of Dr Frankfurter by any chance? He's been moving almost exclusively to frozen transfers when the embryos look good. Fwiw, I did two cycles with GWU. My first cycle was a fresh transfer and failed. Second cycle, Dr F. suggested a freeze all and I'm now 10 weeks! So while that extra 6-8 weeks is a pain, I'd go with your Drs. recommendation because there is now data that the frozen is more succesful than a fresh....

Op here, I am. That's what he told me too. The waiting sucks, but yeah, I'm pretty sure I will just follow his recommendation. I'm glad to hear your second worked!

OP that sounds like bs from your RE. Patients do 3 or 5/6 day transfers all the time.

Are you a patient of Dr Frankfurter by any chance? He's been moving almost exclusively to frozen transfers when the embryos look good. Fwiw, I did two cycles with GWU. My first cycle was a fresh transfer and failed. Second cycle, Dr F. suggested a freeze all and I'm now 10 weeks! So while that extra 6-8 weeks is a pain, I'd go with your Drs. recommendation because there is now data that the frozen is more succesful than a fresh....

What was successful?

I thought I would be up for a fresh transfer on monday, but I just got a call from my re that if the embryos continue to grow as they are (a little fast), he thinks a fet is best because it'd ensure my lining is primed for implantation... basically that my lining and embryo development are in sync. I'm guessing by Monday my lining would be too thick? It was 10 about 5 days ago.

What did you do? Did your re explain why that was the option?