Anonymous wrote:What stuck with me in that documentary was the absolute lack of care that anyone and anything in that house got. The dogs crapped all over the house because they were never taken out. There was just heaps of stuff everywhere- no care taken with any of it. When the financial troubles surfaced, the first thing they did was yank the kids out of private school -- which is expensive, but really I suspect many other expenses could have been cut before that one.

It was like lord of the flies in Cinderella's castle.

...and remember the dead fish because no one thought to feed them.

What stuck with me in that documentary was the absolute lack of care that anyone and anything in that house got. The dogs crapped all over the house because they were never taken out. There was just heaps of stuff everywhere- no care taken with any of it. When the financial troubles surfaced, the first thing they did was yank the kids out of private school -- which is expensive, but really I suspect many other expenses could have been cut before that one.

It was like lord of the flies in Cinderella's castle.

Anonymous wrote:Had never heard of them, and happened upon the wife swap episode, which I could not look away from. The kids seemed really sad. I assumed she was a stripper or porn star before they met...
The other family was the guy from 7th Heaven and Party of 5, that seems like he lost all his acting money and lives on a ranch with his much younger wife. They seem very sweet and have an adorable baby, but it was a little over the top their dedication to hard work -- they had the poor Queen out shoveling cow pies in 27 degree weather, and couldn't even muster any sympathy. I can handle hard work, and I'm not Queen of anything, but I think anyone that shovels shit in 27 degree weather deserves some sympathy and a nice hot cup of something.

According to IMDB, she is only 6 years younger, so not that much.

Had never heard of them, and happened upon the wife swap episode, which I could not look away from. The kids seemed really sad. I assumed she was a stripper or porn star before they met...
The other family was the guy from 7th Heaven and Party of 5, that seems like he lost all his acting money and lives on a ranch with his much younger wife. They seem very sweet and have an adorable baby, but it was a little over the top their dedication to hard work -- they had the poor Queen out shoveling cow pies in 27 degree weather, and couldn't even muster any sympathy. I can handle hard work, and I'm not Queen of anything, but I think anyone that shovels shit in 27 degree weather deserves some sympathy and a nice hot cup of something.

They were on celebrity WIfe Swap last week. They were portrayed as spending very little time with the kids. She admitted to never having changed a diaper, they didn't have family dinners together. She even admitted that the house was so big she could go several days with seeing a kid, but that the help was around to see what was going on. It was quite sad.

I was impressed by the documentary. Jackie was a sympathetic character, and seemed sweet and vulnerable and loving. I'm sorry for their loss.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - they had money troubles during the recession but they are over those troubles and rich again.

Where did you get your riches info? I couldn't peel my eyes away from their train wreck of a documentary a few years ago and would love an update.

NP here, but that information came from the family themselves. They declared that everything was fine now and they were going to resume building the uber-mansion. Did they ever actually move in to the new place?

Anonymous wrote:OP here - they had money troubles during the recession but they are over those troubles and rich again.

Where did you get your riches info? I couldn't peel my eyes away from their train wreck of a documentary a few years ago and would love an update.

Have a friend who posted about having been friends with Victoria since "before she changed her name." I don't know what that is about but friend's post seemed to indicate Victoria was troubled.

OP here - they had money troubles during the recession but they are over those troubles and rich again.

I saw the documentary a couple of years ago. I thought they were all assholes. Throwing around money they didn't really have in order to show off to people who don't give a shit.

I'd take my tiny one bedroom apartment that's clean and orderly any day over their hoarder mansion that was either in or on the brink of foreclosure.

The documentary came out three years ago. I think I heard they had another reversal of fortune - back to rich - since then.

i thought the same thing about them when I saw the documentary. They are tacky but sympathetic characters. The dad is a bit of a scumbag, but the mom seems like she gave up any semblance of her brain to live with him. Sad about her daughter.

I think they were just a weird family and "the palace" was designed to make sure the kids were never seen and heard by the parents.

I think it's weird that she kept having kids when she seemed to enjoy them so little.

David and Jackie Siegel (who were featured in the 2012 documentary "The Queen of Versailles") 's daughter Victoria age 18 had died of a suspected drug overdose at their home in Florida.

I think Victoria must be Jackie's daughter from her first marriage and adopted by David because she was born in 1997 and Jackie and David met in 1998.

The Siegels were raising 8 children together - a niece Jonquil approx. age 19, 3 teen boys, 1 preteen girl, and twin girls. David, who just turned 80, has six adult children. Jackie just turned 49.

I just watched the documentary last night.

I actually liked David and Jackie (who seems very kind and well meaning but overly interested in being "glam") but I couldn't get past their messy and disorganized house. They are like rich hoarders. I thought it was funny that their staff members also seemed to be hoarders. Their main nanny's cottage was a mess and their chauffer's house was disgusting (dog poop everywhere)..David criticized Jackie's housekeeping abilities but his own den was a complete disaster.

Anyhow, the doc was filmed in the house they currently reside in and they are continuing to build their dream house - the Versailles house.

I feel sorry for them. I think they need to simplify their lives and concentrate on their children. Jackie admitted in the doc that she basically lets the nannies raise them although she did seem to spend time with them and attend one boy's baseball game and try to cook with daughter (who just died)..but she is a disorganized mess.

What do you all think?