Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 13:01     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.



So then step in and enforce a break.


Please don't do that, OP. They are old enough to decide when to take a break without Mommy stepping in.

I agree about the ridiculously intense spring semester with all the standardized tests. I took my SATs in the spring and that was it. End of senior year were the AP exams - I don't even remember anyone talking about Subject Tests in the early 80's!



Interesting, my experience was different. The subject tests were called "Achievement tests" in the early 80's. I took my first one sophomore year in 1980. Plus, we took science APs sophomore year and others junior year too. It wasn't saved up until senior year. I was in the HS class of 1982.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:59     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.



So then step in and enforce a break.


Please don't do that, OP. They are old enough to decide when to take a break without Mommy stepping in.

I agree about the ridiculously intense spring semester with all the standardized tests. I took my SATs in the spring and that was it. End of senior year were the AP exams - I don't even remember anyone talking about Subject Tests in the early 80's!


Well, then if parents are going to sit by and do nothing, then why complain? At some point, someone has to step in and say "Enough is enough." Either you're part of the problem or part of the solution.



OR you have empathy and concern and express both without needing to take action.

They are 16 or 17. They know what they are doing.


Sure, just like these high performing teens knew what they were doing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/family-struggles-to-explain-girls-death-among-3-teen-suicides-in-fairfax-since-sept/2014/11/18/e26bd0e6-6f54-11e4-893f-86bd390a3340_story.html

If you think kids are equipped to handle this pressure, you are sadly fooling yourself.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:56     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is.

And then in 6 years they'll graduate into a miserable job market.


Maybe and maybe not. But is higher education always about getting a job? I want my child to get more out of college than job training.


Yes. Of course.

I went to see the doctor of philosophy
With a poster of Rasputin and a beard down to his knee
He never did marry or see a B-grade movie
He graded my performance, he said he could see through me
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper
And I was free.



Indigo Girls?
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:56     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is.

And then in 6 years they'll graduate into a miserable job market.


Maybe and maybe not. But is higher education always about getting a job? I want my child to get more out of college than job training.


Yes. Of course.

I went to see the doctor of philosophy
With a poster of Rasputin and a beard down to his knee
He never did marry or see a B-grade movie
He graded my performance, he said he could see through me
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper
And I was free.


Closer to fine!
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:53     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is.

And then in 6 years they'll graduate into a miserable job market.


Maybe and maybe not. But is higher education always about getting a job? I want my child to get more out of college than job training.


Of course. But the learning can happen without all that pressure to be competitive for the 'next step'.


Okay - on that we agree 100%. I want my children to go to college but am not the least bit hung up on the top colleges.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:51     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.



So then step in and enforce a break.


Please don't do that, OP. They are old enough to decide when to take a break without Mommy stepping in.

I agree about the ridiculously intense spring semester with all the standardized tests. I took my SATs in the spring and that was it. End of senior year were the AP exams - I don't even remember anyone talking about Subject Tests in the early 80's!


Well, then if parents are going to sit by and do nothing, then why complain? At some point, someone has to step in and say "Enough is enough." Either you're part of the problem or part of the solution.



OR you have empathy and concern and express both without needing to take action.

They are 16 or 17. They know what they are doing.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:50     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is.

And then in 6 years they'll graduate into a miserable job market.


Maybe and maybe not. But is higher education always about getting a job? I want my child to get more out of college than job training.


Of course. But the learning can happen without all that pressure to be competitive for the 'next step'.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:50     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is.

And then in 6 years they'll graduate into a miserable job market.


Maybe and maybe not. But is higher education always about getting a job? I want my child to get more out of college than job training.


Yes. Of course.

I went to see the doctor of philosophy
With a poster of Rasputin and a beard down to his knee
He never did marry or see a B-grade movie
He graded my performance, he said he could see through me
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper
And I was free.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:49     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.



So then step in and enforce a break.


Please don't do that, OP. They are old enough to decide when to take a break without Mommy stepping in.

I agree about the ridiculously intense spring semester with all the standardized tests. I took my SATs in the spring and that was it. End of senior year were the AP exams - I don't even remember anyone talking about Subject Tests in the early 80's!


Well, then if parents are going to sit by and do nothing, then why complain? At some point, someone has to step in and say "Enough is enough." Either you're part of the problem or part of the solution.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:48     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
May sucks when you are in high school and college. It's just the deal. It will be summer soon enough.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:47     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:It is.

And then in 6 years they'll graduate into a miserable job market.


Maybe and maybe not. But is higher education always about getting a job? I want my child to get more out of college than job training.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:45     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.



So then step in and enforce a break.


Please don't do that, OP. They are old enough to decide when to take a break without Mommy stepping in.

I agree about the ridiculously intense spring semester with all the standardized tests. I took my SATs in the spring and that was it. End of senior year were the AP exams - I don't even remember anyone talking about Subject Tests in the early 80's!
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:36     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
It is.

And then in 6 years they'll graduate into a miserable job market.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:35     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.



So then step in and enforce a break.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2015 12:33     Subject: DD and her boyfriend and best friend are studying all day today.
They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.