How do you explain all the hideous old geezers with hot young things on their arm (and in their bed)?

And DH isn't less attractive than any of the men I've slept with. He's "in the same league" as the others.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm not saying men don't end up with women who look better then them. I'm saying that when it comes to men, they are more picky when buying (marrying) versus leasing (dating). I've seen this numerous times. A girl who is a 6 sleeps with a 7 or 8 in college or during her 20s and then comes to believe that she has the bat speed to get the 7 or 8 to marry her. Invariably she doesn't and then doesn't understand why a 7 or 8 won't commit (even though he'll sleep with her casually). It sets her back for years when it comes to adjusting expectations for the type of guy who will marry her.

Barf. Did you post the "sex life after kids" thread, too?

Barf = truth you don't like

Is this maybe a less-horribly-explained version of what you're trying to say?

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2008/04/the_eligiblebachelor_paradox.html

(Though in some ways it is almost the opposite of what you are saying).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm not saying men don't end up with women who look better then them. I'm saying that when it comes to men, they are more picky when buying (marrying) versus leasing (dating). I've seen this numerous times. A girl who is a 6 sleeps with a 7 or 8 in college or during her 20s and then comes to believe that she has the bat speed to get the 7 or 8 to marry her. Invariably she doesn't and then doesn't understand why a 7 or 8 won't commit (even though he'll sleep with her casually). It sets her back for years when it comes to adjusting expectations for the type of guy who will marry her.

Barf. Did you post the "sex life after kids" thread, too?

Barf = truth you don't like

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm not saying men don't end up with women who look better then them. I'm saying that when it comes to men, they are more picky when buying (marrying) versus leasing (dating). I've seen this numerous times. A girl who is a 6 sleeps with a 7 or 8 in college or during her 20s and then comes to believe that she has the bat speed to get the 7 or 8 to marry her. Invariably she doesn't and then doesn't understand why a 7 or 8 won't commit (even though he'll sleep with her casually). It sets her back for years when it comes to adjusting expectations for the type of guy who will marry her.

Barf. Did you post the "sex life after kids" thread, too?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm not saying men don't end up with women who look better then them. I'm saying that when it comes to men, they are more picky when buying (marrying) versus leasing (dating). I've seen this numerous times. A girl who is a 6 sleeps with a 7 or 8 in college or during her 20s and then comes to believe that she has the bat speed to get the 7 or 8 to marry her. Invariably she doesn't and then doesn't understand why a 7 or 8 won't commit (even though he'll sleep with her casually). It sets her back for years when it comes to adjusting expectations for the type of guy who will marry her.

I don't see how anyone can take the rest of your post that seriously when your first clause is so manifestly incorrect:

"You won’t find many girls that have had sexual partners uglier than themselves. . . "

Really? You think the large majority of girls think they were less attractive than every man they've slept with?

this is a weird post. I see a lot of my not-hot guy friends trying for women way hotter than they are. Occasionally they succeed, but generally they do not. I occasionally see my women friends batting out of their league, but it's less usual. I can honestly say I only know 3 or 4 women who married someone noticeably hotter than themselves. I think it's because men tend to value looks over some other traits (like making money) and women tend to value some "provider" traits over sheer hotness. (also, there is the stereotype that hot people are dumb, and guys are less likely to care, whereas I don't know many women willing to date a guy less intelligent than themselves.)

I've occasionally attracted seriously hot guys - because I'm not intimidated by that, and I tease them and joke around with them like they're just any other dude. Some of them like that very much. (plus I've got a good body, though I think my face is just normal.)

Cool story, bro

OP here. I'm not saying men don't end up with women who look better then them. I'm saying that when it comes to men, they are more picky when buying (marrying) versus leasing (dating). I've seen this numerous times. A girl who is a 6 sleeps with a 7 or 8 in college or during her 20s and then comes to believe that she has the bat speed to get the 7 or 8 to marry her. Invariably she doesn't and then doesn't understand why a 7 or 8 won't commit (even though he'll sleep with her casually). It sets her back for years when it comes to adjusting expectations for the type of guy who will marry her.

What the hell are you talking about, OP?

Women almost invariably look (at least a little) better than the men I see them with. I don't think this is a fluke.

I'm single and I find this to be true. If I am sleeping with a guy (sex only) I will go for someone super hot, because I have no illusions it will go anywhere. Guys in my league are for dating.

get a grip your your written communication and come back and try again..

Hmm, my husband is more attractive than the guys I slept with before him. How does that figure into the theory?

WTF?!

I've never slept with a man I considered hot. If anything that is very rare. Most men are acceptable in terms of looks. As a woman, I find women so much more appealing and attractive. I'm straight fwiw.

You won’t find many girls that have had sexual partners uglier than themselves, but you’ll find an endless list of guys that have – in fact, there is a contingent of men that have sex with girls less attractive than themselves almost as a rule. Because men can have sex without worrying about pregnancy, social stigma, rape, less about STDs, etc., they attempt to have sex more often. This is so obvious that it might not be worth stating, but ultimately, it means there is a deficit of women for promiscuous sexual relationships. The relatively high demand for females means that women have more and better sexual options.

Men will usually sleep with women that are between 1 and 3 points lower than themselves on a 10-point scale, which means that women are usually sleeping with men that are 1 to 3 points higher than themselves. Men may get laid more often, or at least, have sex with a larger number of partners; but women get to sleep with men of higher quality, in other words, men that are "out of their league."

I often wonder how much this affects girls’ self-perception. Do women know this, and high-five each other after sleeping with guys far more attractive than themselves, realizing all the while that they will someday end up marrying a guy that is much less attractive than what they've experienced until he came along? Or are they unaware of the above-described phenomenon, and conclude that their sexual exploits accurately reflect their options for a spouse, only to be disappointed later in life?