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Anonymous wrote:is there any data by school about the percent of kids who CAN go to a school in bounds who do? Not the in-bounds data for the school. For example if all the kids who live in the zone for murch go there it would be 100% but if 600 of the 1000 do it'd be 60%. Does that data exist at a school level for DC?

That data absolutely exists. I reviewed it in connection with the boundary review process, so I know it is (or at least once was) posted at the DME's boundary review page. It took the form of a 1-2 page summary for each school, showing a map of the school's boundary, and listed each school's in-boundary percentage, defined as the percentage of students who attend that particular school out of the total eligible in-bound pool. I think there is also a spreadsheet summary that lists that same percentage for each school.

Here it is - http://dme.dc.gov/page/advisory-committee-draft-proposal-and-boundaries-june-2014 . Look at the data linked from the list of schools at the bottom of the page. I'm sure the spreadsheet summary is around this location too.

The "eligible pool" only includes current public school students. Private school kids aren't counted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is there any data by school about the percent of kids who CAN go to a school in bounds who do? Not the in-bounds data for the school. For example if all the kids who live in the zone for murch go there it would be 100% but if 600 of the 1000 do it'd be 60%. Does that data exist at a school level for DC?

That data absolutely exists. I reviewed it in connection with the boundary review process, so I know it is (or at least once was) posted at the DME's boundary review page. It took the form of a 1-2 page summary for each school, showing a map of the school's boundary, and listed each school's in-boundary percentage, defined as the percentage of students who attend that particular school out of the total eligible in-bound pool. I think there is also a spreadsheet summary that lists that same percentage for each school.

Here it is - http://dme.dc.gov/page/advisory-committee-draft-proposal-and-boundaries-june-2014 . Look at the data linked from the list of schools at the bottom of the page. I'm sure the spreadsheet summary is around this location too.

Anonymous wrote:is there any data by school about the percent of kids who CAN go to a school in bounds who do? Not the in-bounds data for the school. For example if all the kids who live in the zone for murch go there it would be 100% but if 600 of the 1000 do it'd be 60%. Does that data exist at a school level for DC?

That data absolutely exists. I reviewed it in connection with the boundary review process, so I know it is (or at least once was) posted at the DME's boundary review page. It took the form of a 1-2 page summary for each school, showing a map of the school's boundary, and listed each school's in-boundary percentage, defined as the percentage of students who attend that particular school out of the total eligible in-bound pool. I think there is also a spreadsheet summary that lists that same percentage for each school.

Anonymous wrote:is there any data by school about the percent of kids who CAN go to a school in bounds who do? Not the in-bounds data for the school. For example if all the kids who live in the zone for murch go there it would be 100% but if 600 of the 1000 do it'd be 60%. Does that data exist at a school level for DC?

In other words, you want to know which neighborhoods we should thank for subsidizing the rest of the city vía their non-utilized tax dollars.

Georgetown, Cleveland Park would be at the top, i guess?

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That's just public school kids, it doesn't include private school kids.

I'm pretty sure it's in one of the documents which can be found on the DME boundary review process page.

I don't know where you would get this data. The only group counting kids in a neighborhood is the Census, and that data becomes dated pretty quickly in a place like DC. There is the American Community Survey, which updates Census data using sampling, but they only go down to the country level.

Take for instance a family that moved into DC in 2012. Suppose they live here until 2016, and send two kids to St. Patrick's, a private school. Their kids don't really get compiled anywhere official. Sure they are dependents on their parents' DC tax return, but no one is adding all of those kids up and cross referencing them with school enrollment data.

In the boundary review they had documents that showed the percentage of kids who attend public who live in boundary for each school who attend that school. What they didn't show is the percentage of total kids -- those who attend private as well as public -- and I have never seen DCPS or DME even discuss those numbers. I think as far as they're concerned kids who go private are just another species altogether and not their concern.

The Urban Institute's numbers are estimates made by taking the population from the census and substracting public school enrollment, they don't measure private school attendance directly. When that report came out there was a lot of discussion about how that methodology was flawed. Anecdotally It does not seem like there has been a dramatic drop in private school enrollment in the past decade, it seems like every private school is expanding.

The basic summary I've heard is that citywide, a little more than have of kids go to DCPS...and of them, only half go their their IB school.

Throw in charters and you can say approximately 25% of public school students go to their IB.

I think this fact is partly why the DME thought that "choice sets" and other steps that would have eliminated neighborhood schools would be acceptable to DC residents. They didn't count on the power of the screaming advocates or the political campaign.

Urban Inst had a paper on this by neighborhood (not school by school I don't think) but you can match it up generally http://www.urban.org/urban-wire/private-school-enrollment-decline-dc

I feel like I saw this data in a booklet issued by DCPS in the past few years (maybe after the census) but can't find it.

They provided this data for the boundary process for public school kids only. They also had a separate earlier study that included private school children. Or you can go to the Census website and pull data that approximates school boundaries and calculate it yourself.

It does exist, but you have to file some kind of request to get it. I'm not sure how.

is there any data by school about the percent of kids who CAN go to a school in bounds who do? Not the in-bounds data for the school. For example if all the kids who live in the zone for murch go there it would be 100% but if 600 of the 1000 do it'd be 60%. Does that data exist at a school level for DC?