Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
OP, syndromes happen in nature with or without intervention. It's a genetic coin toss. If this is the only way you can conceive a child, do not let obscure musings derail your efforts.
PP, that is a gross generalization. Sub-par sperm won't fertilize an egg. Besides, sperm issues may be related to count rather than morphology or motility.
Its not a gross generalization. I've read the scientific articles. Its part of the "discussion" section, though you probably don't know what that is.
Bottom line, there's a small increased chance of a few problems (such as infertility-which may not be a surprise-hypospadia, etc). Can't pinpoint why there is a slightly higher rate, but its not a whole lot higher than non-ART children. If you don't have a strong science background, then make an appointment with your RE to discuss the facts.
That is why we are so glad we have 'experts' like you to inform us.
Go back to your hole.
I also researched this before using ICSI and came to the same conclusion. Very small increased risk.
No, you slither back. Nasty person. No one needs to hear your condescension.
We are also doing ICSI. You are not the only person to do this. A lot of people don't have scientific backgrounds and have genuine concerns at a very stressful time in their lives.
Insulting people on forums is no way to get your point across. Understand that first. Or remain quiet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
OP, syndromes happen in nature with or without intervention. It's a genetic coin toss. If this is the only way you can conceive a child, do not let obscure musings derail your efforts.
PP, that is a gross generalization. Sub-par sperm won't fertilize an egg. Besides, sperm issues may be related to count rather than morphology or motility.
Its not a gross generalization. I've read the scientific articles. Its part of the "discussion" section, though you probably don't know what that is.
Bottom line, there's a small increased chance of a few problems (such as infertility-which may not be a surprise-hypospadia, etc). Can't pinpoint why there is a slightly higher rate, but its not a whole lot higher than non-ART children. If you don't have a strong science background, then make an appointment with your RE to discuss the facts.
That is why we are so glad we have 'experts' like you to inform us.
Go back to your hole.
I also researched this before using ICSI and came to the same conclusion. Very small increased risk.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
OP, syndromes happen in nature with or without intervention. It's a genetic coin toss. If this is the only way you can conceive a child, do not let obscure musings derail your efforts.
PP, that is a gross generalization. Sub-par sperm won't fertilize an egg. Besides, sperm issues may be related to count rather than morphology or motility.
Its not a gross generalization. I've read the scientific articles. Its part of the "discussion" section, though you probably don't know what that is.
Bottom line, there's a small increased chance of a few problems (such as infertility-which may not be a surprise-hypospadia, etc). Can't pinpoint why there is a slightly higher rate, but its not a whole lot higher than non-ART children. If you don't have a strong science background, then make an appointment with your RE to discuss the facts.
That is why we are so glad we have 'experts' like you to inform us.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
OP, syndromes happen in nature with or without intervention. It's a genetic coin toss. If this is the only way you can conceive a child, do not let obscure musings derail your efforts.
PP, that is a gross generalization. Sub-par sperm won't fertilize an egg. Besides, sperm issues may be related to count rather than morphology or motility.
Its not a gross generalization. I've read the scientific articles. Its part of the "discussion" section, though you probably don't know what that is.
Bottom line, there's a small increased chance of a few problems (such as infertility-which may not be a surprise-hypospadia, etc). Can't pinpoint why there is a slightly higher rate, but its not a whole lot higher than non-ART children. If you don't have a strong science background, then make an appointment with your RE to discuss the facts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
OP, syndromes happen in nature with or without intervention. It's a genetic coin toss. If this is the only way you can conceive a child, do not let obscure musings derail your efforts.
PP, that is a gross generalization. Sub-par sperm won't fertilize an egg. Besides, sperm issues may be related to count rather than morphology or motility.
Its not a gross generalization. I've read the scientific articles. Its part of the "discussion" section, though you probably don't know what that is.
Bottom line, there's a small increased chance of a few problems (such as infertility-which may not be a surprise-hypospadia, etc). Can't pinpoint why there is a slightly higher rate, but its not a whole lot higher than non-ART children. If you don't have a strong science background, then make an appointment with your RE to discuss the facts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
OP, syndromes happen in nature with or without intervention. It's a genetic coin toss. If this is the only way you can conceive a child, do not let obscure musings derail your efforts.
PP, that is a gross generalization. Sub-par sperm won't fertilize an egg. Besides, sperm issues may be related to count rather than morphology or motility.
Its not a gross generalization. I've read the scientific articles. Its part of the "discussion" section, though you probably don't know what that is.
Bottom line, there's a small increased chance of a few problems (such as infertility-which may not be a surprise-hypospadia, etc). Can't pinpoint why there is a slightly higher rate, but its not a whole lot higher than non-ART children. If you don't have a strong science background, then make an appointment with your RE to discuss the facts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
OP, syndromes happen in nature with or without intervention. It's a genetic coin toss. If this is the only way you can conceive a child, do not let obscure musings derail your efforts.
PP, that is a gross generalization. Sub-par sperm won't fertilize an egg. Besides, sperm issues may be related to count rather than morphology or motility.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!
I looked into this pretty extensively myself. There does seem to be a slight increased incidence of problems (more so in boys). Its not a huge incidence though. The main thing is, they don't necessarily think its the ART, ICSI, etc, but that they are using sperm that never would have been able to fertilize an egg if not for these procedures. So its likely due to use of sub-par sperm. No one has been able to prove this yet; just a theory. Personally, I don't think the risk is all that great, and its the difference between having or not having a child.
Anonymous wrote:I'm doing IVF (with ICSI) and I keep seeing all these things about children conceived through ART or with ICSI as being at higher risk for genetic syndromes, some of which sound really scary (higher risks of childhood cancer!??!)
Did any of you see/hear about this? Anyone's RE talk to them about this? Or do you know any children conceived through ART that do have a syndrome related to ART? I'm trying to figure out what is real and what is hype. Thanks!