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Anonymous wrote:My son is in kindergarten and have heard nothing about AAP. I occasionally volunteer and there are various other adults in the kindergarten classroom. I see certain kids getting pulled out of the class. Our school is a Young Scholars school with 30% ESOL/free lunch. I have never heard of AAP or Young Scholars mentioned by a teacher or other parents. The only thing I have heard about AAP is that a large number of children go to the AAP center that is about a mile away in 3rd away.

Does this mean my child was just not selected for AAP?

Sometime after the NNAT results were in last year, we received a letter from our school stating that our DC was eligible for level II services in second grade. There was a permission slip to sign for acceptance or decline. I assume that the NNAT score was a part of the selection process at our base school.

Since the NNAT results for the current batch of kindergartners are just being received by the parents, I have to wonder if the schools have decided on the level II services without the scores or if the decisions have only just been made.

It really depends on the school's AART resources for the format of pull-out, and when (K, 1st, or 2nd grade) the pull-out is taken place. DC's school did not have pull-out until 2nd grade, and his teacher told us verbally at the teacher/parent conference in October of that year. Some kids got pull-out for math, others for English, or both. Now that the AAP result came back, most pull-out kids in 2nd grade got in, but there is one in DC class also got in AAP without pull-out time. My guess is that most pull-out kids got decent test scores plus good GBRS (because the AART teacher would also provide inputs in their GBRS's comments - a major factor). The kid who did not get pull-out might have gotten excellent test scores. So the bottom line is anything can happen, there is no pattern of how a child is prepared in order to get in AAP.

Anonymous wrote:My son is in kindergarten and have heard nothing about AAP. I occasionally volunteer and there are various other adults in the kindergarten classroom. I see certain kids getting pulled out of the class. Our school is a Young Scholars school with 30% ESOL/free lunch. I have never heard of AAP or Young Scholars mentioned by a teacher or other parents. The only thing I have heard about AAP is that a large number of children go to the AAP center that is about a mile away in 3rd away.

Does this mean my child was just not selected for AAP?

Sometime after the NNAT results were in last year, we received a letter from our school stating that our DC was eligible for level II services in second grade. There was a permission slip to sign for acceptance or decline. I assume that the NNAT score was a part of the selection process at our base school.

Since the NNAT results for the current batch of kindergartners are just being received by the parents, I have to wonder if the schools have decided on the level II services without the scores or if the decisions have only just been made.

Anonymous wrote:At our school, they didn't call it AAP or any other label, but they started doing pull-outs in KG. Couple times a week, DS would tell us that "I went with Ms X today" (we later learned that Ms X was the AART). I don't know how he was identified for it, but it seemed pretty fluid at that point, as there were always different kids getting pulled out with him - at least according to his reports.

We started learning more about it in 1st grade. The evaluations for full-time placement (level IV) don't happen until 2nd grade, with placement starting in 3rd. Don't worry about your kid getting selected for anything right now, kg is all about discovery, the school learning about kids and vice versa, and supplemental enrichment.

You do not need to worry about AAP when your child is older either. If it is right or your child it is a fairly fluid process. I write fairly because some need to, I feel rightfully appeal a denial with IQ testing.

AART at our school met with each K class as a group and did critical thinking exercises. I know bc I was in the classroom helping with the weekly folder stuffing. It also appeared, based on DC reports, that 1st and 2nd had ever rotating groups of kids pulled out.

Both of my kids started getting pull outs in kindergarten by the AART.

I had never heard of AAP with my first child--even though our base school is a center--until I got a letter in the mail partway through 1st grade saying he was eligible for Level II services. So, he started in 1st grade. My daughter's 1st grade teacher told me at our beginning of the year conference that she would be recommending her for Level II services, but I didn't get an official letter about it until the end of the school year. So, I assume that means she didn't start until 2nd grade. BUT, when both of my kids were in K and 1st grades (and 2nd for my son), they did lots of grouping by ability--changing teachers for math and word study. By the time my daugther hit 2nd grade, the school stopped that for some reason. So really, I'm not sure the official "level II services" designation was really important until that point anyway.

Anonymous wrote:earlier poster here. must have been level 2. got pulls out occasionally in all subjects. I just think it is interesting that he was identified very early. makes me thinks they are right on sometimes. my 2nd child getting nothing extra, does not seem to need anything extra.

There are kids who receive pull outs early and never go to aap like my first kid.
And then some who never got pull outs and ended up I'm aap like my second kid.

At our school, they didn't call it AAP or any other label, but they started doing pull-outs in KG. Couple times a week, DS would tell us that "I went with Ms X today" (we later learned that Ms X was the AART). I don't know how he was identified for it, but it seemed pretty fluid at that point, as there were always different kids getting pulled out with him - at least according to his reports.

We started learning more about it in 1st grade. The evaluations for full-time placement (level IV) don't happen until 2nd grade, with placement starting in 3rd. Don't worry about your kid getting selected for anything right now, kg is all about discovery, the school learning about kids and vice versa, and supplemental enrichment.

earlier poster here. must have been level 2. got pulls out occasionally in all subjects. I just think it is interesting that he was identified very early. makes me thinks they are right on sometimes. my 2nd child getting nothing extra, does not seem to need anything extra.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my first kid was identified for level 3 (I think) the summer before K. it was determined after is pre assessment they did before K. the school would mail home a letter stating this. He is now AAP 6th grade.

My 2nd child has been identified for nothing. in 1st grade now.

I didn't think level III services started until 3rd grade.

Yes, it only begins in 3rd: http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/level3.shtml

Anonymous wrote:my first kid was identified for level 3 (I think) the summer before K. it was determined after is pre assessment they did before K. the school would mail home a letter stating this. He is now AAP 6th grade.

My 2nd child has been identified for nothing. in 1st grade now.

I didn't think level III services started until 3rd grade.

my first kid was identified for level 3 (I think) the summer before K. it was determined after is pre assessment they did before K. the school would mail home a letter stating this. He is now AAP 6th grade.

My 2nd child has been identified for nothing. in 1st grade now.

I believe Young Scholars is for K-12, but I'm not sure how the selection process works since my kids attend a school that doesn't have the program. Everyone is receiving Level I, Level II is for K-6, Level III is for 3-6, Level IV is for 3-8. But the dedicated, non-pull out AAP starts in 3rd, where kids are in a Local Level IV class or in an AAP class at a center. Some non-fluent kids also get pulled out for extra english lessons. Maybe you could talk to your AART to get some answers. Personally I didn't care what level my DS was until he started AAP in 3rd.

Different schools handle this differently. Some schools have a full time AART, some have a part time AART. At our school (full time AART), she works with the teachers of each grade to determine what types of AAP services they would like.

At the lower grades (K/1st), the AART does class thinking lessons (thinking outside the box, using imagination, asking big questions). Also in 1st and continuing through 6th, she offers pull outs each quarter. One quarter will be focused on math, one on science, one on writing, one on social studies. Kids may do just one quarter of pull outs or more.... depending on the teacher recommendations and their particular abilities. (in 1st and 2nd the AART does try to get direct interaction with most/all kids so that she has something to work with if they qualify for the "pool" of AAP consideration.).

My son is in kindergarten and have heard nothing about AAP. I occasionally volunteer and there are various other adults in the kindergarten classroom. I see certain kids getting pulled out of the class. Our school is a Young Scholars school with 30% ESOL/free lunch. I have never heard of AAP or Young Scholars mentioned by a teacher or other parents. The only thing I have heard about AAP is that a large number of children go to the AAP center that is about a mile away in 3rd away.

Does this mean my child was just not selected for AAP?