Anonymous
05/06/2015 10:14
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Sex on the 3rd date?! Wow, things have changed. Is this true across all age groups these days?
Anonymous
05/06/2015 10:12
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:FFS, can we please stop about the free dinner crap?? Back in my single days I met wonderful guys where there was no spark and I would give it a few dates to see if chemistry would evolve (and ultimately it did, with my now DH)...but never, ever was I just trying to get a free dinner out of it!! that's just ridiculous. I would rather be home watching TV than at the a Ritz with a guy I'm not connecting with.
It's like some weird urbsn legend that's thrown around here by guys who feel they've been di**ed around, I don't know.
Wow very sensitive. Bet you ate free a lot!
NP. 1955 called and it wants its joke back.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 10:09
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
FFS, can we please stop about the free dinner crap?? Back in my single days I met wonderful guys where there was no spark and I would give it a few dates to see if chemistry would evolve (and ultimately it did, with my now DH)...but never, ever was I just trying to get a free dinner out of it!! that's just ridiculous. I would rather be home watching TV than at the a Ritz with a guy I'm not connecting with.
It's like some weird urbsn legend that's thrown around here by guys who feel they've been di**ed around, I don't know.
Wow very sensitive. Bet you ate free a lot!
Anonymous
05/06/2015 10:07
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
FFS, can we please stop about the free dinner crap?? Back in my single days I met wonderful guys where there was no spark and I would give it a few dates to see if chemistry would evolve (and ultimately it did, with my now DH)...but never, ever was I just trying to get a free dinner out of it!! that's just ridiculous. I would rather be home watching TV than at the a Ritz with a guy I'm not connecting with.
It's like some weird urbsn legend that's thrown around here by guys who feel they've been di**ed around, I don't know.
It's like some weird urbsn legend that's thrown around here by guys who feel they've been di**ed around, I don't know.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 09:57
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Yes. If nothing happens by date two she is just using you....third date sex. Otherwise, she is just eating for free till something better comes along.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 09:03
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
I didn't kiss my DH until the third date but that was because we were coworkers and both of us didn't want things to get weird at the office so we were making sure we both wanted to continue dating/seeing each other before actually kissing. Once we got started we didn't stop 
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Anonymous
05/06/2015 08:14
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:A short kiss on the first date, a longer one on the second and sex on the third.
Otherwise, move on.
Speaking as a woman here: there can be an attempt for sex on the guy's part. I would probably be disappointed in any guy who didn't try after the third date. But I would not actually have sex until the 5th or sixth date. I just really enjoy making out. I've been married nearly 20 years, so this is all moot
Anonymous
05/06/2015 08:08
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:As a woman, I'd like to kiss by the 2nd date. Otherwise, you get into that weird does this person just want to be friends zone. By the 2nd date I want to know if there is mutual interest, and I agree with the pp that if at the end of the 2nd date either person is still trying to figure out/convince themself of an attraction, it's really not a good sign.
+ 1
No self-respecting guy wants to be with a woman who has to talk herself into being attracted to him and gear up for a simple kiss.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 08:03
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:A short kiss on the first date, a longer one on the second and sex on the third.
Otherwise, move on.
Sex on the 3rd? Really?
Don't buy it.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 08:01
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
As a woman, I'd like to kiss by the 2nd date. Otherwise, you get into that weird does this person just want to be friends zone. By the 2nd date I want to know if there is mutual interest, and I agree with the pp that if at the end of the 2nd date either person is still trying to figure out/convince themself of an attraction, it's really not a good sign.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 07:56
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Anonymous wrote:Yes, unless I know from before said woman is very demure and perhaps pious.
But your typical woman, it has been my experience with 100% correlation over the past year that if she doesn't kiss at the end of the first date - you aren't seeing her again (unless first date was coffee in the afternoon or very early evening - then the kiss has to come by date 2).
But yeah by date two definitely needs to be a kiss there.
I don't have time for a woman who doesn't feel physically attracted to me.
+1
This is way different than "PUT OUT WOMUN FOAR I SPENDED MONIES ON YOU".
I will also argue a woman who's attracted to a man knows it and will act accordingly. If she is "making up her mind" after a 2nd-3rd date, she is attempting to convince herself that this guy is really ok and that she is really attracted to this guy or (worse) just killing time with this guy and getting free food/drinks/entertainment until something better comes along.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 07:27
Subject: Re:Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
A short kiss on the first date, a longer one on the second and sex on the third.
Otherwise, move on.
Otherwise, move on.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 07:12
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Yes.
But if you are the person who posted about this last week, that guy wasn't really interested in you anyway, which he made pretty clear after your first date.
But if you are the person who posted about this last week, that guy wasn't really interested in you anyway, which he made pretty clear after your first date.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 06:45
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
Yes, unless I know from before said woman is very demure and perhaps pious.
But your typical woman, it has been my experience with 100% correlation over the past year that if she doesn't kiss at the end of the first date - you aren't seeing her again (unless first date was coffee in the afternoon or very early evening - then the kiss has to come by date 2).
But yeah by date two definitely needs to be a kiss there.
I don't have time for a woman who doesn't feel physically attracted to me.
But your typical woman, it has been my experience with 100% correlation over the past year that if she doesn't kiss at the end of the first date - you aren't seeing her again (unless first date was coffee in the afternoon or very early evening - then the kiss has to come by date 2).
But yeah by date two definitely needs to be a kiss there.
I don't have time for a woman who doesn't feel physically attracted to me.
Anonymous
05/06/2015 06:40
Subject: Men--do you expect women to kiss by date 2? Be honest!
I want an honest perspective as to what men expect by date two? Do you think your time has been wasted if the woman doesn't kiss you at the end of date two? Is that reason enough to call the whole thing off?