I am an FCPS second grade teacher. I am amazed by the amount of misinformation posted here. To the parent who said a low Gbrs score cannot overcome any CoGat score, you are absolutely wrong. A score of 140 or more pretty much guarantees AAP admission regardless of Gbrs. I had kids with Gbrs of four, the lowest possible, and high scores routinely get in to AAP. Kids below the pool cut off, 122 to 130, would get in with Gbrs of 11 or above with strong comments. So many parents here post comments with absolutely no knowledge. I recently worked on a project with a retired AART who confirmed all of my years of anecdotal information.

Does anyone know the distribution of GBRS scores?

Anonymous wrote:OP, here. Could somebody please explain this GBRS hocus pocus?? Very obviously confused!

Does anyone have a sense of how it is weighted in the admission process? Are the various standardized test scores incorporated into the GBRS?

I'm not a teacher, but I suspect the test scores aren't included in the GBRS. If you look at the form, it's about demonstrated behaviors - http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/packet/Fillable_AAPGBRSwithCommentary.pdf
The test scores should stand on their own.

This is anecdotal, but p.196 of the GMU review report from 2013 shows what the GMU reviewers found in terms of how the screening committee weights different things in the file. NOTE - the report doesn't say the optional materials don't matter, but it does say that test scores seem to be important and the GBRS is very important,

OP, here. Could somebody please explain this GBRS hocus pocus?? Very obviously confused!

Does anyone have a sense of how it is weighted in the admission process? Are the various standardized test scores incorporated into the GBRS?

Anonymous wrote:Mine got a 9. Can anyone tell me if anyone can get in first round with that kind of GBRS. If yes, what kind of scores would trump that? I am not interested in appealing. But still not sure if that is the right decision.

FCPS will tell you that whether your DC got in on the first round w/in the next 10 days. You might be able to get some guidance on addl tests - it might be helpful to share NNAT and COGAT scores so folks could share parity of their DC w/ your situation. Good luck!

A 9 and what else? If you share the scores, people might be able to give you a better-informed opinion.

Mine got a 9. Can anyone tell me if anyone can get in first round with that kind of GBRS. If yes, what kind of scores would trump that? I am not interested in appealing. But still not sure if that is the right decision.

12 is perfectly fine. My kid was an 11 and he was in first round.

OP again.

PP, I thought scores 14-16 would be considered "great"....

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I agree with PP's comments re: subjectivity of GBRS. I also agree that test scores alone don't give a complete picture of a child's aptitude (unless it's a WISC).

Have heard from other parents at DC's school that a high GBRS was of critical importance for admission to the AAP ---implying that it's the one score that matters most...

DC's "gibbers" weren't great: 12

12 is not great?!!

OP here. I agree with PP's comments re: subjectivity of GBRS. I also agree that test scores alone don't give a complete picture of a child's aptitude (unless it's a WISC).

Have heard from other parents at DC's school that a high GBRS was of critical importance for admission to the AAP ---implying that it's the one score that matters most...

DC's "gibbers" weren't great: 12

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Anonymous wrote:How much of an impact do GBRS have on AAP admission? I've heard many say that high CogAts and/or WISCs trump the somewhat arbitrary "gibbers".

What was your DC's GBRS?

No CogAT will trump a bad GBRS (6 or less). That is because the CogAT is a test where test prep option can do wonders to the score (but not make the kid smarter). WISC will trump a poor GBRS.

On the other hand, baring unethical behavior (i.e. bribery), there is no way to get a high GBRS without displaying the actions over a long period of time. One bad day can result in a bad CogAT (or any similar test), but the GBRS is based on a two year average of in-school observations.

I agree, but GBRS can be highly subjective depending on the type of teacher your kid has. And a shy kid can get a lower GBRS because he didn't open up. That is why they look at various info and scores to make their decision.

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Anonymous wrote:How much of an impact do GBRS have on AAP admission? I've heard many say that high CogAts and/or WISCs trump the somewhat arbitrary "gibbers".

What was your DC's GBRS?

No CogAT will trump a bad GBRS (6 or less). That is because the CogAT is a test where test prep option can do wonders to the score (but not make the kid smarter). WISC will trump a poor GBRS.

On the other hand, baring unethical behavior (i.e. bribery), there is no way to get a high GBRS without displaying the actions over a long period of time. One bad day can result in a bad CogAT (or any similar test), but the GBRS is based on a two year average of in-school observations.

Anonymous wrote:How much of an impact do GBRS have on AAP admission? I've heard many say that high CogAts and/or WISCs trump the somewhat arbitrary "gibbers".

What was your DC's GBRS?

How much of an impact do GBRS have on AAP admission? I've heard many say that high CogAts and/or WISCs trump the somewhat arbitrary "gibbers".