Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Goes to show that even pre-Common Core, our most affluent, supposedly "smartest" students weren't doing that well compared to kids in other countries.

apples and oranges

In what way?

The kids being tested now have had many years not following common core. We won't really know if common core has made any difference till we start comparing kids who started with it in 1st to 12 compared to those kids who never had it.

The point was that the curriculums that were being used pre CC obviously weren't that great either if you use this as a measure of how well they did on the tests.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Goes to show that even pre-Common Core, our most affluent, supposedly "smartest" students weren't doing that well compared to kids in other countries.

apples and oranges

In what way?

The kids being tested now have had many years not following common core. We won't really know if common core has made any difference till we start comparing kids who started with it in 1st to 12 compared to those kids who never had it.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich shanghiese will blow your socks off on any test. Funny how china only sends that province's data.

Yes we know America is a hodgepodge of students. You think that would make the state or locality more in charge of the curriculum and projects. But no, instead it just got federalize do by Obamas common core standards and tests!

Cheating is rampant in China though I'm surprised they wouldn't use more districts unless they don't bother cheating on the Pisa.

If you just used Massachusett's Pisa scores we're 5th in the world. It's all relative

How about local? VA, DC, MD?

Anonymous wrote:Rich shanghiese will blow your socks off on any test. Funny how china only sends that province's data.

Yes we know America is a hodgepodge of students. You think that would make the state or locality more in charge of the curriculum and projects. But no, instead it just got federalize do by Obamas common core standards and tests!

Cheating is rampant in China though I'm surprised they wouldn't use more districts unless they don't bother cheating on the Pisa.

If you just used Massachusett's Pisa scores we're 5th in the world. It's all relative

Does confirm that U.S. Public schools aren't teaching ANY segment well or to potential - not the poor, not the illiterate illegals, not the neglected mididle class, and not the upper class for whom they redirected away most funds/tracking.

Doesn't confirm anything.

Rich shanghiese will blow your socks off on any test. Funny how china only sends that province's data.

Yes we know America is a hodgepodge of students. You think that would make the state or locality more in charge of the curriculum and projects. But no, instead it just got federalize do by Obamas common core standards and tests!

Anonymous wrote:You can close the gap from the top or from the bottom--unfortunately........

Yep, made even more interesting when Fed funds are up for grabs by subscribing to common core and "testing well".

But agree, fluff piece not saying anything. Does confirm that U.S. Public schools aren't teaching ANY segment well or to potential - not the poor, not the illiterate illegals, not the neglected mididle class, and not the upper class for whom they redirected away most funds/tracking.

Anonymous wrote:

Goes to show that even pre-Common Core, our most affluent, supposedly "smartest" students weren't doing that well compared to kids in other countries.

apples and oranges

In what way?

Goes to show that even pre-Common Core, our most affluent, supposedly "smartest" students weren't doing that well compared to kids in other countries.

apples and oranges

Goes to show that even pre-Common Core, our most affluent, supposedly "smartest" students weren't doing that well compared to kids in other countries.

socioeconomic status

What's SES?

You can close the gap from the top or from the bottom--unfortunately........

Ms. Kanter cautioned that it is still difficult to compare the U.S. population of 340 million with the smaller and more homogenous populations of many OECD countries. She called for more research to identify and replicate K-12 and higher education systems that do provide world-class skills to young adults.

Most important sentence in the article. The article provides absolutely zero explanation of why. Worthless fear mongering.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2015/02/18/us-millennials-come-up-short-in-global.html#

Even the richest and brightest of our youth are falling behind.

The Asian and White Americans are not performing better than their counter parts in other countries.

Stop saying it is just an achievement gap story.