Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop talking about Cap Hill like they are EOTP schools? Start another thread for their suburban school issues.

So is Payne Capitol Hill school or EOTP school? Miner? Eastern? Eliot-Hine?

Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop talking about Cap Hill like they are EOTP schools? Start another thread for their suburban school issues.

WTF?

Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop talking about Cap Hill like they are EOTP schools? Start another thread for their suburban school issues.

. You see geographically-disinclined.

Capital City does pull outs for the advanced kids into a small group drawn from both classes for 4th grade. This means a smaller group of about 10-12 kids scoring advanced doing harder work and moving through concepts more quickly. One aspect I like is that this is not a program where once you are in/out it stays that way. Depending on how students do with their benchmarks - think interim quizzes - they may move in or out of the group.

In middle school it is similar - they have Mathaletes - you may be pulled into a group based on how well you are doing with a particular standard. If you continue to excel you stay in that group. If you have a difficult time with a standard you move back to the proficient group. If you are in the proficient group but excelling at a standard you move.

This approach also applies to the kids working at below grade level. If they 'get' it they move out of their group into the proficient group.

OP here. I live on the Hill so these answers have been very helpful to me. I knew about Brent's program and wondered if any other schools had similar initiatives. We go to an immersion HRCS that we love, but it doesn't seem to have figured out how to deal with kids who are above grade level in math. My 1st grader is already better than me at math so I don't feel capable of helping her myself.

Can we please stop talking about Cap Hill like they are EOTP schools? Start another thread for their suburban school issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Brent: advanced students move up to an appropriate level of challenge. i understand that there are third graders who are taking fourth amd fifth grade math this year. I believe this is typically done under the tutelage of the science teacher. I'm not sure if there is any precedent for adapting to a fourth or fifth grader who is at middle school level.

Typically Brent (or any of the Cap Hill schools) while georgraphically EoTP, are the cap hill schools. The EoTP schools refer to petworth, col Heights, Logan Circle etc. And its telling that no one from those schools can offer up any options for advanced math students because they don't exist at these schools.

Do you mean advanced kids don't exist, or options for them don't exist? Because 15% of the kids at Powell, 11% of kids at Bancroft, 26% of the kids at Cleveland, 31% of the kids at Thomson, and 22% of the kids at Tubman scored advanced last year in math.

One challenge with sending kids up a grade for math is that it only works until the kid's exhausted 5th grade math. Another challenge is that the kid still needs some time to review grade-level math so he or she is able to score advanced again on the CAS.

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Anonymous wrote:Brent: advanced students move up to an appropriate level of challenge. i understand that there are third graders who are taking fourth amd fifth grade math this year. I believe this is typically done under the tutelage of the science teacher. I'm not sure if there is any precedent for adapting to a fourth or fifth grader who is at middle school level.

Typically Brent (or any of the Cap Hill schools) while georgraphically EoTP, are the cap hill schools. The EoTP schools refer to petworth, col Heights, Logan Circle etc. And its telling that no one from those schools can offer up any options for advanced math students because they don't exist at these schools.

I've seen the stats for West EC, and a majority of the middle school kids graduate 8th grade with Algebra credit. I don't know their exact mechanism for teaching at advanced levels in the elementary levels because my kids aren't at that stage. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

My child is at a Montessori where he works at his own pace. He's in K and has a very strong understanding of the decimal system and can add and subtract 5 and 6 digit numbers. He is also being taught the basics of geometry and pre-algebra.

Anonymous wrote:LAMB students work at their own level throughout due to Montessori model, but my DD has gotten group instruction in math 2-3 grade levels a over her grade.

how do you know this?

Anonymous wrote:Brent: advanced students move up to an appropriate level of challenge. i understand that there are third graders who are taking fourth amd fifth grade math this year. I believe this is typically done under the tutelage of the science teacher. I'm not sure if there is any precedent for adapting to a fourth or fifth grader who is at middle school level.

Typically Brent (or any of the Cap Hill schools) while georgraphically EoTP, are the cap hill schools. The EoTP schools refer to petworth, col Heights, Logan Circle etc. And its telling that no one from those schools can offer up any options for advanced math students because they don't exist at these schools.

Our school - also Capitol Hill - has a math coach who does pull-outs for advanced students. And there is a math competition they can participate in during the spring. Our school opted against kids looping into upper classrooms (my son's middle school does however) because it messes with the schedules in a way that would compromise other great things going on such as grade-level joint planning times.

But I think the question you're asking would be best asked of schools directly. I feel I'm pretty well informed about what our school does but when it comes to very specific questions like this, I couldn't tell you "what" exactly our school does, nor the name of whatever program it uses. There are different models and the math coach, resource person, or the instructional coach at the school you call up would be in a much better position to explain the details to you. I feel parents are notoriously ill equipped to give you technical details of the sort you'd need to answer this question competently.

LAMB students work at their own level throughout due to Montessori model, but my DD has gotten group instruction in math 2-3 grade levels a over her grade.

Brent: advanced students move up to an appropriate level of challenge. i understand that there are third graders who are taking fourth amd fifth grade math this year. I believe this is typically done under the tutelage of the science teacher. I'm not sure if there is any precedent for adapting to a fourth or fifth grader who is at middle school level.

Please name the school and cite any positive (or not) experiences you have had with teaching advanced math students in elementary school. Some schools let the child skip up one or two grades just for math; others do not. What does yours do? Does it work for you? I'm only interested in DCPS and charters east of the park.