There are a number of things I am unclear about from OP's post but I am confident that he/she is a horrible person.

Anonymous wrote:WTF is a tip?

+1 Feel that I am conversant with most argot in the private school and admissions world, but tip is new to me.

WTF is a tip?

Anonymous wrote:In my child's senior class of 81 students only 24 were plain vanilla , meaning they were not an ivy legacy, minority, recruitable athlete, or had extra time on their tests. Most of the people in the class had some advantage over just their resume.

One of these things is not like the others.

1. Is "tip" the new word for "hook"? Or just OP's word for a category that she has expanded to include students getting extra time?

2. I find it borderline offensive that she appears to have asked her child* to list specific students that, for example, get extra time. I am also a little skeptical that she or her child would know everyone's specific legacy status.

3. Very sad that all of elementary and secondary school appears to have telescoped down to just college admissions for the OP.

nosy people- is disgusting

It might be interesting (though between year to year variations within a school and the fact that nobody has identified schools, I don't see how useful it is). But where/how/why someone collected such data for her kid's class is a different question.

I think this information is helpful to parents making the decision to send their child to private school

How and why would you know all this? Work in the college counseling office? Googling every kid and all the parents of the kids in the class?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I agree with the comments of the previous poster. My comment isn't meant as a complaint about unfair advantage at all. It's about the numbers. Looking at the specific students in the class only two out of 81 got in to an ivy without a tip. My own child had every advantage naturally born in her and was a very hard worker and I have no complaints at all. But I am saying that the admissions dept of the private schools stacks every class with kids with tips.

So 1 in 12 students without tips got into Ivies? You do realize that at most public schools it's 1 in 1000, don't you?

You still don't get it, PP.

OP here. I agree with the comments of the previous poster. My comment isn't meant as a complaint about unfair advantage at all. It's about the numbers. Looking at the specific students in the class only two out of 81 got in to an ivy without a tip. My own child had every advantage naturally born in her and was a very hard worker and I have no complaints at all. But I am saying that the admissions dept of the private schools stacks every class with kids with tips.

Anonymous wrote:In my child's senior class of 81 students only 24 were plain vanilla , meaning they were not an ivy legacy, minority, recruit able athlete, or had extra time on their tests. Most of the people in the class had some advantage over just their resume. I was wondering about the numbers in other private school senior classes.

Right, because white kids who get to attend private school aren't advantaged in any way.

Trust me, the advantages that your child gets from being white, specifically the million second chances, translate to much bigger pluses in the admissions world than the "tip" my kid gets for being black, and the advantages a child gets from having a brain that learns in the way that schools teach, is far more significant than the "tip" you get from extra time.

Your kid is starting 6 inches from the finish line, and concentrating only on the kid 5 inches from the line, rather than those 99 and a 1/2 feet behind him.

Interesting question. Unfortunately, in my child's class there were quite a few legacies where that tip did not help. Of the top five students, only one made use of their legacy status. It was an odd year though, and things might have worked out differently had the seniors wanted the schools they had legacy status for. It seemed to work better with the mid level student legacy. Top of the class mainly got in where they wanted regardless of legacy. And btw, there are academic achievements and arts achievements that are very powerful hooks as well. Intel, Seimens, singing, art.

In my child's senior class of 81 students only 24 were plain vanilla , meaning they were not an ivy legacy, minority, recruit able athlete, or had extra time on their tests. Most of the people in the class had some advantage over just their resume. I was wondering about the numbers in other private school senior classes.