Anonymous wrote:She was young and naive. He was manipulative and took advantage of her. They both would have been better off dating people their own age.

They were 8 years apart. That's normal.

Have you read the emails? The mother and daughter are the craziest people I have ever read about. That mother is a piece of woek! Those two will be a story on ID one day.

What do you think about the therapist (who by the way is local)?

Anonymous wrote:I don't think Joe Londsdale is an asshole. In fact i think he is a regular guy who was a nerd type well into his 20's until he discovered the good life and status that a Silicon Valley tycoon could have access to.
He has a webpage were he has posted all email exchanges.
http://joelonsdalestatement.com/
His tone is respectful and gives me the sense that he is a fine guy. Ellie on the contrary gave glimpses of being emotionally unstable. In a email she goes way over telling him about why she acted crazy with him one day. After reading an email like that I would have run away from her immediately but instead he replied saying I am sorry (for something he didn't do) and that he was going to take care of her.
If there was any abuse in here it wasn't Lonsdale it was the mom. That helicopter mom is CRAZY.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I totally agree with you.

She was young and naive. He was manipulative and took advantage of her. They both would have been better off dating people their own age.

Did you read the letter she wrote to Joe when he ended the relationship with Ellie? crazy woman. No wonder her daughter is soo FU in the head. The afidavit of the friend also says a lot.

Omg, just read the stuff from the mother on Joe's site. Holy helicopter!

I don't think Joe Londsdale is an asshole. In fact i think he is a regular guy who was a nerd type well into his 20's until he discovered the good life and status that a Silicon Valley tycoon could have access to.
He has a webpage were he has posted all email exchanges.
http://joelonsdalestatement.com/
His tone is respectful and gives me the sense that he is a fine guy. Ellie on the contrary gave glimpses of being emotionally unstable. In a email she goes way over telling him about why she acted crazy with him one day. After reading an email like that I would have run away from her immediately but instead he replied saying I am sorry (for something he didn't do) and that he was going to take care of her.
If there was any abuse in here it wasn't Lonsdale it was the mom. That helicopter mom is CRAZY.

Damn phone! "dad" = "dd"

Link : http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/the-stanford-undergraduate-and-the-mentor.html?_r=0

NP here. I read most of it this morning and it's still disturbing me. I have to say I'll feel like a collosial failure if my dad finds herself in a relationship where she doesn't want to have sex with a guy but doesn't feel like she can say no. They were together three years - the guy sounds like s bit of a schmuck, but regret isn't rape. I find the whole thing horrifying, and can't even believe there are lawsuits going on now. Awful all around.

I knew a rather disturbed woman who saw a therapist for a while for adoption trauma....then it turned into recovered memories of sexual abuse by adoptive father (no evidence) she cut off all contact
With her family, joined survivor groups, etc...in therapy recovered past life memories of bring killed at auschwitz (not Jewish!)....

I think this case is a terrible combo of pushy egotistical man, confused suggestible young woman with string catholic guilt messages, controlling over involved stage managing mother and horrendous therapist who "uncovered"' rape.

I know what it means to be young, pursued by older wealthy men and unsure of what to do, conflicted by the rush of attention but also feeling list and out if place and that you are there as a symbol -not really desired for who you are because if course you yourself don't really know who you are. But there is a big leap from "out of comfort zone and afraid to be assertive" and psychological and physical abuse.

Ditto 16:36, there is blame on both sides. But not to the extent of continuous, repeated rape. And the mom seemed all to happy to have access to the VC lifestyle.

I think he's probably an controlling asshole and he did take advantage of her. Their relationship was in no way appropriate and he needs to take responsibility for that. That said, I think she's unstable and her mother is like some crazy stage mom.

I don't believe her. This is a case of a vengeful, sexually frigid girlfriend and her mother who was very happy to see her daughter date a rich man only for him to get tired of her constant Catholic "oooh, I shouldn't have sex." They were together for nearly 2 years and all of a sudden "he pushed me to have sex?"

For someone who claims to be religious, she has loose morals, let alone professional ethics.

link?

Did anyone read the NYT article about the Stanford student, Ellie Clougherty, and the Stanford mentor Silicon Valley technologist, Joe Lonsdale, and the relationship and events that allegedly transpired? What do you think of this?