Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 18:18     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Is there a third person who can step in for this poor kid?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 18:17     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
PP here. To answer your question, there is no way a judge will let you put that into your contract. Are you crazy?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 18:16     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
If you are this worried then you shouldn't have divorced him. You should've dealt with the abuse or cheating. Maybe you can get back together with him if you seriously think he will kill your child.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 17:54     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with the snow driving ex my ex makes questionable safety decisions with our child. Think definite blizzard driving or placing toddler in recalled recreational vehicle only 2 examples - there is more. I am powerless to stop this but is there anything I can put in our agreement that if our child is injury or killed in his care he would still have to pay support? I would have it go to a non-profit for child abuse or a legal pro se help office etc... Not to me
But I want him on notice that it is no financial benefit to him if our child is hurt.


OP, seriously, you need to see a therapist. No, there is no way to write this language into your support agreement. If he is negligent and your child is killed, he could face criminal negligence charges.

If you have examples of serious risk of endangerment, you can call Child Protective Services or petition the court to allow him to have only supervised visitation. But the two examples you cite are not at all at the level of risk that an agency will entertain.


There are more examples. He's already had 1 child. Accidentally die. So again I ask anything?


Do you think he killed the child so he wouldn't have to pay child support? Was he sad that the child died?

Otherwise, I don't see how your reasoning will work. I understand that it must be scary to send your child off for visitation with someone you don't trust, but what you're implying here goes beyond "careless".


Yes. No to the second question. Ambivalent at the death. Still is. But bought a new car not soon after.


OP, you are SICK.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 17:52     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with the snow driving ex my ex makes questionable safety decisions with our child. Think definite blizzard driving or placing toddler in recalled recreational vehicle only 2 examples - there is more. I am powerless to stop this but is there anything I can put in our agreement that if our child is injury or killed in his care he would still have to pay support? I would have it go to a non-profit for child abuse or a legal pro se help office etc... Not to me
But I want him on notice that it is no financial benefit to him if our child is hurt.


OP, seriously, you need to see a therapist. No, there is no way to write this language into your support agreement. If he is negligent and your child is killed, he could face criminal negligence charges.

If you have examples of serious risk of endangerment, you can call Child Protective Services or petition the court to allow him to have only supervised visitation. But the two examples you cite are not at all at the level of risk that an agency will entertain.


There are more examples. He's already had 1 child. Accidentally die. So again I ask anything?


Do you think he killed the child so he wouldn't have to pay child support? Was he sad that the child died?

Otherwise, I don't see how your reasoning will work. I understand that it must be scary to send your child off for visitation with someone you don't trust, but what you're implying here goes beyond "careless".


Yes. No to the second question. Ambivalent at the death. Still is. But bought a new car not soon after.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 17:50     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:It's one thing to want language inserted into a custody order to protect your child, it is another to want language in a custody order that will make one parent pay the other support after the child dies in an unforeseen accident.

He had one child die in an accidental drowning which must have destroyed both him and his marriage with this other woman, and you are trying to use it against him? Accidental drownings happen all the time, to all kinds of people and it is pretty easy to determine if it was caused by flat out neglect rather than an accident. Obviously since he is not in jail and has unsupervised parenting time with your kid, he was not responsible for his other child's death.

If you really believe he is in danger then you can always try to go to court to modify the order, but based on what you are saying here you have no grounds to modify anything.


He wasn't married. He wasn't paying attention to the toddler . Didn't even notice he got out of the house.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 17:24     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with the snow driving ex my ex makes questionable safety decisions with our child. Think definite blizzard driving or placing toddler in recalled recreational vehicle only 2 examples - there is more. I am powerless to stop this but is there anything I can put in our agreement that if our child is injury or killed in his care he would still have to pay support? I would have it go to a non-profit for child abuse or a legal pro se help office etc... Not to me
But I want him on notice that it is no financial benefit to him if our child is hurt.


OP, seriously, you need to see a therapist. No, there is no way to write this language into your support agreement. If he is negligent and your child is killed, he could face criminal negligence charges.

If you have examples of serious risk of endangerment, you can call Child Protective Services or petition the court to allow him to have only supervised visitation. But the two examples you cite are not at all at the level of risk that an agency will entertain.


There are more examples. He's already had 1 child. Accidentally die. So again I ask anything?


Do you think he killed the child so he wouldn't have to pay child support? Was he sad that the child died?

Otherwise, I don't see how your reasoning will work. I understand that it must be scary to send your child off for visitation with someone you don't trust, but what you're implying here goes beyond "careless".
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 17:18     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
It's one thing to want language inserted into a custody order to protect your child, it is another to want language in a custody order that will make one parent pay the other support after the child dies in an unforeseen accident.

He had one child die in an accidental drowning which must have destroyed both him and his marriage with this other woman, and you are trying to use it against him? Accidental drownings happen all the time, to all kinds of people and it is pretty easy to determine if it was caused by flat out neglect rather than an accident. Obviously since he is not in jail and has unsupervised parenting time with your kid, he was not responsible for his other child's death.

If you really believe he is in danger then you can always try to go to court to modify the order, but based on what you are saying here you have no grounds to modify anything.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 14:15     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:was he found responsible for the other child's death?

If so, then he has a record of some kind (a criminal record, or CPS finding of neglect) which should be accounted for in your custody arrangements.

If not, then it wasn't his fault. shit happens. Kids get in accidents. you can't stop that with legal documents.

If not and you think he actually was responsible, you are sounding a bit crazy. What does the kid's mother think?


She thinks he neglected him. Drowing. Accidental.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 11:45     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
was he found responsible for the other child's death?

If so, then he has a record of some kind (a criminal record, or CPS finding of neglect) which should be accounted for in your custody arrangements.

If not, then it wasn't his fault. shit happens. Kids get in accidents. you can't stop that with legal documents.

If not and you think he actually was responsible, you are sounding a bit crazy. What does the kid's mother think?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 11:41     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with the snow driving ex my ex makes questionable safety decisions with our child. Think definite blizzard driving or placing toddler in recalled recreational vehicle only 2 examples - there is more. I am powerless to stop this but is there anything I can put in our agreement that if our child is injury or killed in his care he would still have to pay support? I would have it go to a non-profit for child abuse or a legal pro se help office etc... Not to me
But I want him on notice that it is no financial benefit to him if our child is hurt.


OP, seriously, you need to see a therapist. No, there is no way to write this language into your support agreement. If he is negligent and your child is killed, he could face criminal negligence charges.

If you have examples of serious risk of endangerment, you can call Child Protective Services or petition the court to allow him to have only supervised visitation. But the two examples you cite are not at all at the level of risk that an agency will entertain.


There are more examples. He's already had 1 child. Accidentally die. So again I ask anything?


Have you gone to court? Have you told the court that you believe your child is in danger and that he had another child accidentally die from something that caused the accident? How did his other child die?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 11:36     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with the snow driving ex my ex makes questionable safety decisions with our child. Think definite blizzard driving or placing toddler in recalled recreational vehicle only 2 examples - there is more. I am powerless to stop this but is there anything I can put in our agreement that if our child is injury or killed in his care he would still have to pay support? I would have it go to a non-profit for child abuse or a legal pro se help office etc... Not to me
But I want him on notice that it is no financial benefit to him if our child is hurt.


OP, seriously, you need to see a therapist. No, there is no way to write this language into your support agreement. If he is negligent and your child is killed, he could face criminal negligence charges.

If you have examples of serious risk of endangerment, you can call Child Protective Services or petition the court to allow him to have only supervised visitation. But the two examples you cite are not at all at the level of risk that an agency will entertain.


There are more examples. He's already had 1 child. Accidentally die. So again I ask anything?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 11:29     Subject: Re:Risking kids life custody agreement language.
This post can't be real. If so, seek therapy IMMEDIATELY. Do not pass GO. Do NOT collect $200!
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 11:26     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
Anonymous wrote:As with the snow driving ex my ex makes questionable safety decisions with our child. Think definite blizzard driving or placing toddler in recalled recreational vehicle only 2 examples - there is more. I am powerless to stop this but is there anything I can put in our agreement that if our child is injury or killed in his care he would still have to pay support? I would have it go to a non-profit for child abuse or a legal pro se help office etc... Not to me
But I want him on notice that it is no financial benefit to him if our child is hurt.


OP, seriously, you need to see a therapist. No, there is no way to write this language into your support agreement. If he is negligent and your child is killed, he could face criminal negligence charges.

If you have examples of serious risk of endangerment, you can call Child Protective Services or petition the court to allow him to have only supervised visitation. But the two examples you cite are not at all at the level of risk that an agency will entertain.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2015 10:51     Subject: Risking kids life custody agreement language.
As with the snow driving ex my ex makes questionable safety decisions with our child. Think definite blizzard driving or placing toddler in recalled recreational vehicle only 2 examples - there is more. I am powerless to stop this but is there anything I can put in our agreement that if our child is injury or killed in his care he would still have to pay support? I would have it go to a non-profit for child abuse or a legal pro se help office etc... Not to me
But I want him on notice that it is no financial benefit to him if our child is hurt.