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Anonymous wrote:Ugly men ALWAYS want you to see their penis. They think it's some magic stick that casts love spells on you with one peek. I know this to be fact. Every ugly guy I dated showed me his penis on our first and only date. Once I ran screaming from the car. I later told that damn guy I thought he meant the rock group White Snake ! Not show me his white snake ! I said Don't EVER CALL ME AGAIN !

After that trauma, I dated good looking guys. The penis didn't come out until I asked.

Im with you. I only date hot guys. They have less of a chip on their shoulder. And they are easier to look at.

And I agree about the obsession with showing their penis. it's pathetic.

Okay, this is funny, but a crock of s**t. I'm married now but dated all kinds of men, and nobody ever showed me their penis on the first date unless there wasn't mutual thing going on. There are creepy homely men and creepy handsome men; the only difference, as PP said, is that handsome men are less likely to be considered creepy because their advances will be more welcome .

This thread is rather immature. It's fine to only date handsome men but to say that ugly men akways show their penis is just stupid.

Anonymous wrote:It seems like the higher percentage of men who do creepy things like hit on you when they are married are also handsome man who you wouldn't think would have to resort to such behavior. Or the guy that you been in date and then find out there are shady things about them also tends to be that good looking guy. Ugly men seem to be very straight forward.

Formerly handsome, and the answer is that I fell under some influence from jewish intellectual phillip roth, who suggests in one of his novels that you can get your way with women if you hit on them inappropriately such that they will be reluctant to tell the story to others (lest they appear to have invited the conduct). Roth says if you want a woman to keep an affair a secret to have sex with the wives of your best friends.

I interpreted this a bit more broadly and it generally works.

I think being handsome adds a layer of security because it further makes the woman look like she invited the advance.

So for many years I used this strategy with a very high rate of success, until I settled down with a woman I finally fell in love with.

One random handsome guy was a total douchebag when I spoke to him at a club. It was a costume party and I wanted to ask him about his costume. He assumed I was hitting on him because I was talking to him. I've never had such a bad reaction to a meaningless question. He acted like I was creepy. I'm not hideous, but I had close to 20 years on him. It was just weird. I explained all of that to say that the perception of two people having the same conversation can be completely different.

I've known plenty of good attractive guys. The most attractive one seems to not know how good he looks.

I am a guy...middle aged (51). I am not so good looking and am not a creep (at least I do not think I am). This thread has a problem: Creepiness and looks are two separate items.

And what is "creep?"...Some would say unwanted attention....well in that definition, of course the better looking will be less creepy as you are more likely to be attracted to them.

However, I suspect that if you focus on behaviors, creepy behaviors such as showing the white snake or whatever....things like stalking -- basically showing up at places where she will be...things like exhibitionism or voyeurism...true sexual harassment (as opposed to someone looked at me and I find it creepy) ...., etc. is probably equally common among good looking and "ugly" people.

However, people are more willing to excuse the behavior if the accused is good looking.

Anonymous wrote:Some of the most handsome men play for the other team.

How true. Hahahahaha. I always suspect a man who is great looking and who can match his own socks. IMO Real men don't even know they have feet.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugly men ALWAYS want you to see their penis. They think it's some magic stick that casts love spells on you with one peek. I know this to be fact. Every ugly guy I dated showed me his penis on our first and only date. Once I ran screaming from the car. I later told that damn guy I thought he meant the rock group White Snake ! Not show me his white snake ! I said Don't EVER CALL ME AGAIN !

After that trauma, I dated good looking guys. The penis didn't come out until I asked.

Like Anthony Weiner? Perfect name.

LOL ! Great example !

Anonymous wrote:Ugly men ALWAYS want you to see their penis. They think it's some magic stick that casts love spells on you with one peek. I know this to be fact. Every ugly guy I dated showed me his penis on our first and only date. Once I ran screaming from the car. I later told that damn guy I thought he meant the rock group White Snake ! Not show me his white snake ! I said Don't EVER CALL ME AGAIN !

After that trauma, I dated good looking guys. The penis didn't come out until I asked.

Like Anthony Weiner? Perfect name.

Anonymous wrote:Ugly men ALWAYS want you to see their penis. They think it's some magic stick that casts love spells on you with one peek. I know this to be fact. Every ugly guy I dated showed me his penis on our first and only date. Once I ran screaming from the car. I later told that damn guy I thought he meant the rock group White Snake ! Not show me his white snake ! I said Don't EVER CALL ME AGAIN !

After that trauma, I dated good looking guys. The penis didn't come out until I asked.

Im with you. I only date hot guys. They have less of a chip on their shoulder. And they are easier to look at.

And I agree about the obsession with showing their penis. it's pathetic.

Ugly men ALWAYS want you to see their penis. They think it's some magic stick that casts love spells on you with one peek. I know this to be fact. Every ugly guy I dated showed me his penis on our first and only date. Once I ran screaming from the car. I later told that damn guy I thought he meant the rock group White Snake ! Not show me his white snake ! I said Don't EVER CALL ME AGAIN !

After that trauma, I dated good looking guys. The penis didn't come out until I asked.

Some of the most handsome men play for the other team.

Creep and Ugly usually go hand in hand.

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Hmm - I hardly ever meet a man who I would consider handsome. There are a lot of really ugly men who are creeps too!

studies show that for a given age range women in general only consider 15-20% of men at most are attractive physically.

I think the word creep though has lost all meaning because too many women use it on guys they don't find attractive that approach them. If it was only kept to actually identifying creepy behavior, it would have more meaning.

Hmm - I hardly ever meet a man who I would consider handsome. There are a lot of really ugly men who are creeps too!

Attractive men are used to women throwing themselves at them, so they get accustomed to the idea that they can do whatever they want, because there will always be a woman waiting for them. Unattractive guys have had to work harder for women, so are less likely to do stupid stuff to screw it up.

It seems like the higher percentage of men who do creepy things like hit on you when they are married are also handsome man who you wouldn't think would have to resort to such behavior. Or the guy that you been in date and then find out there are shady things about them also tends to be that good looking guy. Ugly men seem to be very straight forward.