Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny thing is all the "progressives" that hate it are going nuts that the R's are going to kill it....

Schools should be local, not federal.

Schools actually are local, not federal.

yeah
Well, if you were part of the system, you'd know that this idea of "local" is just BS. We are state-controlled. Ask any teacher who's using the "local" curriculum guides where the local autonomy is.

Yeah, right, it's "impractical" to give two decent servings of fruit or vegetables to accompany lunch - which is why schools were calling ketchup a vegetable. Sorry, but that's bullshit. Fruits and vegetables are cheap and easy. Or, it's somehow "impractical" to serve slices of whole grain bread instead of slices of white bread. Bullshit. If your vendors can't manage that, you need a new vendor.

Just look at all the regulations for school lunch programs. Some of it is impractical. Years ago, we had local dieticians at the schools. There was less money available. I'd love to know how that worked.

There are roughly 13,580 school districts in the nation. According to your brilliant logic, evidently we should spend 13,580 times as much money coming up with 13,580 different sets of standards, policies and guidelines for the sole reason of partisan political ideology and mumbo jumbo about "local control" and hatred of the current occupant of the White House.

Riiight. We get that you're a conservative, but you certainly can't call yourself a fiscal conservative, given you don't understand basic concepts of economies of scale.

You think it works that way? NO. The local school districts spend lots of money and effort complying with government regulations in order to get grants. It is counter productive.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny thing is all the "progressives" that hate it are going nuts that the R's are going to kill it....

Schools should be local, not federal.

Schools actually are local, not federal.

NCLB is federal. Needs to go as well as the whole DOE. Spend the money we currently spend on federal bureaucrats on new teachers and raises for the ones we have .

There are roughly 13,580 school districts in the nation. According to your brilliant logic, evidently we should spend 13,580 times as much money coming up with 13,580 different sets of standards, policies and guidelines for the sole reason of partisan political ideology and mumbo jumbo about "local control" and hatred of the current occupant of the White House.

Riiight. We get that you're a conservative, but you certainly can't call yourself a fiscal conservative, given you don't understand basic concepts of economies of scale.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny thing is all the "progressives" that hate it are going nuts that the R's are going to kill it....

Schools should be local, not federal.

Schools actually are local, not federal.

NCLB is federal. Needs to go as well as the whole DOE. Spend the money we currently spend on federal bureaucrats on new teachers and raises for the ones we have .

Anonymous wrote:Funny thing is all the "progressives" that hate it are going nuts that the R's are going to kill it....

Schools should be local, not federal.

Schools actually are local, not federal.

The problem with schools being local is that you end up with huge disparities and learning gaps.

Strongly disagree. Look at the learning gaps now. Here's a little piece of information: education starts at home.

Anonymous wrote:Funny thing is all the "progressives" that hate it are going nuts that the R's are going to kill it....

Schools should be local, not federal.

The problem with schools being local is that you end up with huge disparities and learning gaps.

Anonymous wrote:

I think people are just spouting the conventional wisdom rather than actually reading it and understanding it.

Testing requirements and judging schools based on tests need to go. My kids were in elementary when it started. Huge difference in the instruction--negative influence.

That is just part of the bill. Saying you want to throw out the entire bill is the proverbial throwing out that baby with the bath water.

I think people are just spouting the conventional wisdom rather than actually reading it and understanding it.

Testing requirements and judging schools based on tests need to go. My kids were in elementary when it started. Huge difference in the instruction--negative influence.

Anonymous wrote:I don't. There is quite a bit of good in the bill. The bill is really a rehash of the education bill of 1965. Some of the parts that were changed under GWB are the ones people object and call NCLB, but there is far more in the bill than testing.

+1. I think people are just spouting the conventional wisdom rather than actually reading it and understanding it.

I don't. There is quite a bit of good in the bill. The bill is really a rehash of the education bill of 1965. Some of the parts that were changed under GWB are the ones people object and call NCLB, but there is far more in the bill than testing.

Funny thing is all the "progressives" that hate it are going nuts that the R's are going to kill it....

Schools should be local, not federal.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/the-plot-to-overhaul-no-child-left-behind-113857.html?hp=t3_r

I sure hope they succeed in this.