Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 17:11     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Anonymous wrote:If it helps, OP, I looked up some information on honey and infants. In California, 550,000 babies were born and the number of babies with infant botulism from honey were 6.3 per 100,000 live births. So about 30 cases a year in California.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/data/statistics/Documents/Infant%20Botulism-EpiSummary-July09.pdf

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/data/statistics/Documents/VSC-2008-0201.pdf

So infants do get botulism from honey, if you need statistics to show to your DH and MIL.

I wouldn't be combative about this, as PP noted, parents may not know about current car seat recommendations, SIDS back-to-sleep, or honey. We educate them as we go along.


Some parents are resistant to change and get offended if they sense they are being educated. When I tried to show something similar to your stats to my MIL, she rolled her eyes and said that science is BS and she will rely on things that work for her. She then followed up with a spill regarding how she watches TV, and scientists there change recommendations every month.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 17:06     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

I don't trust my ILs with the kids anymore; they've aged and are forgetful. They still get to see the kids plenty, but they don't have an opportunity to make any decisions on behalf of the kids - they would never be the ones to decide that the baby is going to have a pacifier. So they can play with the kids, but it's not a break for me, I just expect to feed/clothe/bathe/change kids as usual.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 17:04     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which culture is she familiar with?


Ha ha. Child rearing practices have changed radically since when your DH was a baby. However, your reaction seems extreme. So, I am thinking there is previous baggage.

I predict this thread will devolve into....american culture vs. other culture...MIL vs DIL...pacifier vs. non-pacifier in short notice..


Li could care less if she gave DD a pacifier, but now I know she is not safe for DD. She doesn't care what I think or what American doctors say, she is always right and will do as she pleases.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 17:00     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

You have to watch her more carefully. It is the grandparent's responsibility to learn these things, if they do not want to be supervised. My parents were a pain about this too, but I did not relent and eventually they improved.

I'm still really angry that they made it my responsibility to personally educate them about every single thing that had changed since 1982.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 17:00     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

If it helps, OP, I looked up some information on honey and infants. In California, 550,000 babies were born and the number of babies with infant botulism from honey were 6.3 per 100,000 live births. So about 30 cases a year in California.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/data/statistics/Documents/Infant%20Botulism-EpiSummary-July09.pdf

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/data/statistics/Documents/VSC-2008-0201.pdf

So infants do get botulism from honey, if you need statistics to show to your DH and MIL.

I wouldn't be combative about this, as PP noted, parents may not know about current car seat recommendations, SIDS back-to-sleep, or honey. We educate them as we go along.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:58     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Anonymous wrote:MIL gave DD (2 months) a pacifier filled with honey. I found it in her mouth and luckily it hadn't been broken.

I'm very upset. I told her that babies are not to have honey and to ask before giving DD anything. She got offended and told me DH and all his siblings got it as infants and "ended up fine".I don't even want her around DD anymore, she is so ignorant of this culture and has so many backwards ideas about raising children she likes to enforce on me.


The funny thing is, you will see that exact justification ALL OVER DCUM about everything under the sun. I'm pretty sure at least 50% of DCUM readership watched over 10 hours of TV per day all throughout childhood AND has a Ph.D from an Ivy League school.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:55     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

I would be so upset. Infants can be killed by eating honey. I would not trust her alone with my baby after that happened.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:37     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Hon, I know it's hard. But it's not like having born-here parents is necessarily that much better. Both of my parents had no clue that SIDS was a thing-- the first time I let them watch her, they let her sleep on an adult bed, and argued that it was ok because they were "checking on her"! WTF!
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:36     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Anonymous wrote:Which culture is she familiar with?


Ha ha. Child rearing practices have changed radically since when your DH was a baby. However, your reaction seems extreme. So, I am thinking there is previous baggage.

I predict this thread will devolve into....american culture vs. other culture...MIL vs DIL...pacifier vs. non-pacifier in short notice..

Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:35     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

She'll get over it. Have clear guidelines about what is or isn't okay for baby. If she gets upset, whatever. But you also shouldn't be using it as an excuse to cut her off from her grandchild.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:34     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Is this something she bought or she just covered a pacifier in honey?
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:33     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Which culture is she familiar with?
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:31     Subject: Re:Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Anonymous wrote:Have your husband have a good long sit down with his mother. He must be on your side on this 100% or MIL is just going to think you are a bitch.


+1
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:27     Subject: Re:Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

Have your husband have a good long sit down with his mother. He must be on your side on this 100% or MIL is just going to think you are a bitch.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2014 16:25     Subject: Honey filled pacifier. Wtf?

MIL gave DD (2 months) a pacifier filled with honey. I found it in her mouth and luckily it hadn't been broken.

I'm very upset. I told her that babies are not to have honey and to ask before giving DD anything. She got offended and told me DH and all his siblings got it as infants and "ended up fine".

I don't even want her around DD anymore, she is so ignorant of this culture and has so many backwards ideas about raising children she likes to enforce on me.