Anonymous
12/04/2014 01:28
Subject: Re:GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
Anonymous wrote:OP, the SES is about management -- in theory, SESs should be managers able to move to any agency regardless of subject matter, although in practice they do tend to have some expertise or experience with one agency. If you are a manager (there are lots of GS-14 managers in field offices, for example) you have a shot. If you have no managerial experience then it is going to be difficult even if you were a GS-15.
Some agencies have SES development programs, and that may be a good place for you to start. Go to USAJobs and search for "Candidate Development Program." Many of them require you to have GS-15 "or equivalent" experience, so you'll have to demonstrate that.
Good luck!
I am at a research agency. If you want an SES position where I work, you have to have gone through the SES development program or be a top scholar from outside of government with some management experience.
Anonymous
12/03/2014 08:53
Subject: GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
I think this is an interesting question. My agency is currently hiring for an SES position. No where in the job announcement or in the questions asked is a specific requirement that the applicant must have experience at a GS-15. But, I think it is pretty common-place here that SES'ers were at a GS15 prior.
If you feel you meet the qualifications - I'd give it a go. I think even just filling out the application would be a valuable exercise.
If you feel you meet the qualifications - I'd give it a go. I think even just filling out the application would be a valuable exercise.
Anonymous
12/03/2014 00:20
Subject: GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
Bickering Feds. Hilarious! I need to get my popcorn!?
Anonymous
12/01/2014 22:15
Subject: Re:GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
OP, the SES is about management -- in theory, SESs should be managers able to move to any agency regardless of subject matter, although in practice they do tend to have some expertise or experience with one agency. If you are a manager (there are lots of GS-14 managers in field offices, for example) you have a shot. If you have no managerial experience then it is going to be difficult even if you were a GS-15.
Some agencies have SES development programs, and that may be a good place for you to start. Go to USAJobs and search for "Candidate Development Program." Many of them require you to have GS-15 "or equivalent" experience, so you'll have to demonstrate that.
Good luck!
Some agencies have SES development programs, and that may be a good place for you to start. Go to USAJobs and search for "Candidate Development Program." Many of them require you to have GS-15 "or equivalent" experience, so you'll have to demonstrate that.
Good luck!
Anonymous
11/30/2014 21:04
Subject: Re:GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
There are very specific SES evaluation criteria. Good luck whatever you do: getting an SES or nonladder 15 are extremely difficult. Everyone wants one.
Anonymous
11/30/2014 21:00
Subject: Re:GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
I am not trying to be a SES.
How about you get an opportunity as a GS-15 first pal?
Maybe once you get experiences working with SES'ers and actually contribute to the mission, then apply for a SES?
You amateur.
How about you get an opportunity as a GS-15 first pal?
Maybe once you get experiences working with SES'ers and actually contribute to the mission, then apply for a SES?
You amateur.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to come on DCUM to ask for advice and don't want to even apply because of time, consideration,etc.
You are definitely NOT ready to be a SES.
apparently you're not ready to be an SES either.
Anonymous
11/30/2014 20:52
Subject: Re:GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
Anonymous wrote:If you need to come on DCUM to ask for advice and don't want to even apply because of time, consideration,etc.
You are definitely NOT ready to be a SES.
apparently you're not ready to be an SES either.
Anonymous
11/30/2014 20:50
Subject: GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
I don't think you need to be a 15 to apply a SES position but chance of you getting it is (most likely) very, very, very small. Good luck.
Anonymous
11/30/2014 20:47
Subject: Re:GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
If you need to come on DCUM to ask for advice and don't want to even apply because of time, consideration,etc.
You are definitely NOT ready to be a SES.
You are definitely NOT ready to be a SES.
Anonymous
11/30/2014 08:24
Subject: GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
Why not just try and see what happens.
Anonymous
11/29/2014 12:35
Subject: GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
I think you have to be a GS-15, or have experience that is comporable to GS-15, to even be eligible.
Anonymous
11/29/2014 12:33
Subject: GS-14 applying for SES job at another agency - worth the effort?
I am a GS-14 and just saw an ad for an SES position which is exactly in my area of expertise at another agency. The ad doesn't say that it's restricted to those already in SES, but I was wondering if, in practice, anyone who's not in SES (or at least a GS-15) actually has a chance at such a position. The application is extremely lengthy- I'm willing to do it, but just wondering if anyone's ever heard of someone making this kind of jump.