Anonymous wrote:I'm going to get flamed by this but I think legalizing pros near campuses would help.

I've known some pros and agree. Now pros start off as young girls who are victimized. So I think our culture has to change to not victimize girls. We also all need to stop being misogynistic.

(for the record I knew one pro who was not victimized at all...she just liked attention, was hot and so could pick her partners with great ease.)

also for the record, I was raised really, really poor which is how I came to know the pros. I knew two of them through my fast food job and the other two from my super cheap apartment complex

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to get flamed by this but I think legalizing pros near campuses would help.

Well, yeah, because it's flame-worthy. These rapes aren't about blue balls; they are about control and, in some cases, about validation in the eyes of other young men.

Oh, I am the OP and I forgot my number one thought was that it is positively stupid for colleges to prosecute rape or sexual assault. This is 100% a police matter and should be treated that way.

1) Drop the drinking age to 18 so kids can go to bars, not frats.
2) Include sexual violence as part of sex ed, early in school.
3) Outlaw any fraternity/sorority/team that includes any kind of initiation ritual. Of any kind.
4) Make fraternities/sororities go co-ed.
5) Mandatory seminars on sexual behavior and violence throughout college.

Going with the assumption that rape is about power. In the case of an eye for an eye, if the rapist is raped themselves they would feel the loss of power and be forced through what their victim went through. Nothing else seems to be working.

Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the victim. It happens because men are animals. Plain and simple.

Not helpful. Women are animals, too. Do you really think casting it in terms of predators and weaker prey advances the ball? Lots of coerced sex in the wild kingdom, but maybe men and women can aim for something different.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the victim. It happens because men are animals. Plain and simple.

This is insulting to men. Men are not animals. We've created a social environment where certain predatory men are coddled and protected, and something has to be done about that.

Right and saying "men are animals" makes rape expected and accepted, which it is not.

Anonymous wrote:An eye for an eye would fix this problem very quickly.

You mean raping the rapists? I'm not sure they would mind.

An eye for an eye would fix this problem very quickly.

I'm going to get flamed by this but I think legalizing pros near campuses would help.

Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the victim. It happens because men are animals. Plain and simple.

This is insulting to men. Men are not animals. We've created a social environment where certain predatory men are coddled and protected, and something has to be done about that.

Stop blaming the victim. It happens because men are animals. Plain and simple.

Rapists need to be held accountable with severe consequences.

People need to stop making themselves easy targets by drinking heavily, walking around alone, in the dark, etc. They are not to blame. They should not be punished. But they should be careful.

False accusations

Is it the fraternities and sororities?
The binge drinking?
The "hook-up" mentality?
How we teach boys/men to think about girls?
How we teach women to think about protecting themselves?
All of the above?

I am biased. I was a ridiculous fuddy-duddy in college who did not drink pretty much at all. I thought most parties were stupid and boring and too loud (you can imagine how popular I was). I went to an elite school in the South and I found the entire culture of the place to be completely f-ed up, even though as an 18 year old I wasn't quite sophisticated enough to articulate why. People self-segregated by race, drank themselves into a stupor for "fun," and there was definitely this weird misogynistic undertone to everything. Women on campus felt an intense pressure to be awesome at everything, especially looking as beautiful as possible. There was a school task force on eating disorders at one point. At one fraternity party they somehow got a bunch of girls to wrestle in baby oil. This is degrading to women, not cute or fun, but no one was really surprised or upset by this kind of stuff. Everything was greeted with a "boys will be boys" type of collective shrug.