Anonymous
10/21/2014 16:32
Subject: Re:Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:Not for next year. Or it will be limited as they are changing it up.
Yes, it will be very interesting to see what happens with next Fall's PSAT. It will be much more difficult to prep for this one.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 16:19
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually think studying for the PSAT/SAT/ACT should be condemned. It makes the score more of a measure of how well the kid studied than how prepared he/she is for college.
And learning how to study for a test is no way to prepare for college.
Look, I don't think studying for a test is bad. You shouldn't be expected to learn test material by osmosis.
But, the standardized tests are a completely different story. They're supposed to test how much you learned, not how many practice tests you did. My son knows kids who did a practice test a day, every day, for weeks. They didn't even have to finish reading questions because they had read so many SAT style questions they could predict what the question was going to say and save time. They boosted their scores 200 or 300 points (and bragged about it) by essentially gaming the tests, which (imo) is not okay.
Not to mention the effect prepping has on rich people's scores. Some people don't have to bother teaching themselves to game the tests because C2 can do it for them.
I think you could think about this the opposite way. They are capable of getting a higher score, but only someone with familiarity with the text question structure and test format could fully demonstrate their potential.
When I was applying to business school I took a practice GMAT and got 600. I then did a practice section every weekday evening and a complete practice GMAT every Saturday and Sunday for two months. Got a 790 on the actual exam. I most certainly did not learn reading comprehension or math in those two months--I was learning how to do the test, and the final score more accurately reflected what I was capable of.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 16:05
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:asian kids prep since the day they were born
Students studying is to be commended. It is better than students partying and hanging out and not becoming a tax paying member of society.
Stop attacking Asian kids for studying.
I actually think studying for the PSAT/SAT/ACT should be condemned. It makes the score more of a measure of how well the kid studied than how prepared he/she is for college.
Yes, because it's so obvious that these kids who study and score well do so poorly in college.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 15:41
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:Racist and not funny.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:asian kids prep since the day they were born
that's why kids don't grow. parents keep hitting them on the head.
just a joke people... let's not get too excited.
To the "joke" teller, I agree with PP that it is not funny. I would not go so far to say that you are a racist, I don't know you well enough. I suspect you either do have some pent up feelings of jealousy or anger when it comes to Asian kids (maybe you feel that your DC was kept out of TJ by "one of them") at a conscious, or maybe even subconcious level. But don't think your preface of "just a joke people" absolves you of any responsibility for this offensive remark.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 15:39
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually think studying for the PSAT/SAT/ACT should be condemned. It makes the score more of a measure of how well the kid studied than how prepared he/she is for college.
And learning how to study for a test is no way to prepare for college.
Look, I don't think studying for a test is bad. You shouldn't be expected to learn test material by osmosis.
But, the standardized tests are a completely different story. They're supposed to test how much you learned, not how many practice tests you did. My son knows kids who did a practice test a day, every day, for weeks. They didn't even have to finish reading questions because they had read so many SAT style questions they could predict what the question was going to say and save time. They boosted their scores 200 or 300 points (and bragged about it) by essentially gaming the tests, which (imo) is not okay.
Not to mention the effect prepping has on rich people's scores. Some people don't have to bother teaching themselves to game the tests because C2 can do it for them.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 15:27
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:asian kids prep since the day they were born
Students studying is to be commended. It is better than students partying and hanging out and not becoming a tax paying member of society.
Stop attacking Asian kids for studying.
I actually think studying for the PSAT/SAT/ACT should be condemned. It makes the score more of a measure of how well the kid studied than how prepared he/she is for college.
And learning how to study for a test is no way to prepare for college.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 15:14
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:asian kids prep since the day they were born
Students studying is to be commended. It is better than students partying and hanging out and not becoming a tax paying member of society.
Stop attacking Asian kids for studying.
I actually think studying for the PSAT/SAT/ACT should be condemned. It makes the score more of a measure of how well the kid studied than how prepared he/she is for college.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 15:06
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:asian kids prep since the day they were born
Students studying is to be commended. It is better than students partying and hanging out and not becoming a tax paying member of society.
Stop attacking Asian kids for studying.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 13:43
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Racist and not funny.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:asian kids prep since the day they were born
that's why kids don't grow. parents keep hitting them on the head.
just a joke people... let's not get too excited.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 13:08
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote:asian kids prep since the day they were born
that's why kids don't grow. parents keep hitting them on the head.
just a joke people... let's not get too excited.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 13:08
Subject: Re:Do kids prep for PSATs?
Anonymous wrote: Really only an issue if a kid is likely to have a chance of being a NMSF, otherwise the scores don't matter for anything.
This is my guess - only the ones in range for NMSF would have any reason to prep.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 13:06
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
asian kids prep since the day they were born
Anonymous
10/21/2014 12:05
Subject: Re:Do kids prep for PSATs?
Most schools give it to 10th graders as "practice", and those scores might direct someone over the next summer to do some SAT prep on their own based on the scores (i.e. if had a fantastic math score, and a so so verbal, work on verbal, or vice versa), that prep useful for SAT or PSAT. Really only an issue if a kid is likely to have a chance of being a NMSF, otherwise the scores don't matter for anything. So if on the practice a kid gets a say 220 then studying some to try and get up to 223-224 range which is required locally for NMSF might be worthwhile, but otherwise should focus only on SAT and a prep plan for taking it winter/spring of junior year, and just use PSAT as a metric for what to focus on
Anonymous
10/21/2014 11:53
Subject: Re:Do kids prep for PSATs?
Not for next year. Or it will be limited as they are changing it up.
Anonymous
10/21/2014 11:27
Subject: Do kids prep for PSATs?
Is that common and to-be-expected. If so, how does one prep?