DC assholes aren't "hard" - they are more of the overly-PC, back stabbing, hall monitor type. Way more annoying IMO. I will take straight up, don't mess around hard any day.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on what you mean by "hard". DC people are too quick to take offense. They think they value straight talk, but they don't. They suck at just getting on with stuff, and think that other people really give a shit about where they work and who they know.

NYC folks enjoy the crowds, the noise, the directness,etc. Grocery stores in the outer boroughs have parking lots, and in Manhattan your kitchen is the size of a postage stamp with little storage and everyone delivers, so no one really worries about the logistics of trying to shop at Costco.

Yes, but once you have kids or are no longer under 30, having a postage stamp kitchen and relying on takeout gets old, not to mention unhealthy. I live in DC proper and can go grocery shopping and park in my own driveway. I can still walk places too. I could never do that in NY. It was such an ordeal to cool that we always ate out. Which is another reasons are friends there have so little money.

Depends on what you mean by "hard". DC people are too quick to take offense. They think they value straight talk, but they don't. They suck at just getting on with stuff, and think that other people really give a shit about where they work and who they know.

NYC folks enjoy the crowds, the noise, the directness,etc. Grocery stores in the outer boroughs have parking lots, and in Manhattan your kitchen is the size of a postage stamp with little storage and everyone delivers, so no one really worries about the logistics of trying to shop at Costco.

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Anonymous wrote:They say people in NYC are "hard". Is this true? How does DC compare to NYC then?

DC is a piece of cake compared to New York. I've lived in both. In New York you're forced to carry groceries home in the cold, run errands without a car and ride a dirty aubway with lots of stairs. Unless you can spend a lot on apartment it will be a shitty place. Parking a car is approx 500 a month, 3.5k for a decent one bedroom that is far from luxury, higher taxes and far more crowded.

Um, I live in DC and I have to carry groceries in the rain and do errands without a car. Many people in dc do not own cars.

Actually most do and most grocery stores have free parking. That's unheard of in NY with the exception of the fairway way way uptown near the GW bridge.

DC is full of assholes but is not hard like NYC. But DC is soft when it comes to a bit of inclement weather.

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Anonymous wrote:They say people in NYC are "hard". Is this true? How does DC compare to NYC then?

DC is a piece of cake compared to New York. I've lived in both. In New York you're forced to carry groceries home in the cold, run errands without a car and ride a dirty aubway with lots of stairs. Unless you can spend a lot on apartment it will be a shitty place. Parking a car is approx 500 a month, 3.5k for a decent one bedroom that is far from luxury, higher taxes and far more crowded.

Um, I live in DC and I have to carry groceries in the rain and do errands without a car. Many people in dc do not own cars.

Anonymous wrote:Assholes are everywhere. Regardless of geography.

Is this what you mean by "harder"?

It's a lot more than just assholes. My husband and I have a great deal of money and found New York to be a harder place to live in hands down. From the hassle of garaging your car, having to carry anything you buy home, trying to hail a cab in the rain, cramped apartments and just old buildings and infrastructure - it stinks. When you're 25 and just want to go out it's the best place ever. Or if you make millions a year and live in a sick apartment with a doorman and full time driver. If not, no thanks.

Also driving into the city for work isn't am option. Even if you love in a 3 mm house in Greenwich you'll be taking a long train ride on metro north and men have to fight the crowds on the subway to continue your journey to work. That's hard.

DC people are not hard at all. I've lived in DC, NYC, and Boston. DC people are limp and delicate compared to the other two. And not just in winter.

Anonymous wrote:They say people in NYC are "hard". Is this true? How does DC compare to NYC then?

DC is a piece of cake compared to New York. I've lived in both. In New York you're forced to carry groceries home in the cold, run errands without a car and ride a dirty aubway with lots of stairs. Unless you can spend a lot on apartment it will be a shitty place. Parking a car is approx 500 a month, 3.5k for a decent one bedroom that is far from luxury, higher taxes and far more crowded.

DC's got a lot of transplanted New Yorkers, FWIW.

The nation's capital has always had an influx of outsiders – after Nevada and Florida, it has the largest share of newcomers – but unlike in most places, people from neighboring states do not make up the bulk of new arrivals. New Yorkers are the largest percentage of new residents in D.C.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html?_r=1&abt=0002&abg=0#District_of_Columbia

Might explain a few things.

Assholes are everywhere. Regardless of geography.

Is this what you mean by "harder"?

They say people in NYC are "hard". Is this true? How does DC compare to NYC then?