Anonymous
09/17/2014 01:34
Subject: Conference called for red flags
/whisper bring back tracking in certain subjects.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 23:19
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If she not a strong reader and can't write why is she in AAP?
+1 They must have a low bar. So what does that say about AAP?
Agh! Not the case. Scored very high (without prepping) on Cogat in math and logic and has an extroverted independent personality.
I wonder why on earth AAP isn't spread out among all the kids. For instance, in Gen Ed there are lots of kids who excel at writing, reading, math, you name it. But because they aren't strong in all skills, they aren't in AAP. But it sounds like there are also kids in AAP who aren't strong at everything either. So why the need to segregate students into one group or another? Why not make "advanced" classes fluid, for all kids to be able to excel at their strengths? The current system is so out of whack.
Good question. I'm the PP with the kid who is good in math/logic/reading but not writing... ironically, my older child who excels in writing and reading, but not quite as strong in math just missed the cut off for the AAP pool. Older child went through a rough patch initially with adv. math at the base school in 3rd grade, but now has settled into it (it was also ironic that she was even placed into adv. math when it was the math/nnat scores that kept her OUT of AAP -- but that's the only "advanced" class offered at the base school, so that's where they put her). Now we wonder if older child might have been a better fit for the full AAP curriculum based on the writing requirements (even though younger child tested better)!
If they aren't going to better match adv. classes to kids' abilities, it would be nice if the screening tests better assessed the skills needed for the curriculum.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 22:56
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If she not a strong reader and can't write why is she in AAP?
+1 They must have a low bar. So what does that say about AAP?
Agh! Not the case. Scored very high (without prepping) on Cogat in math and logic and has an extroverted independent personality.
I wonder why on earth AAP isn't spread out among all the kids. For instance, in Gen Ed there are lots of kids who excel at writing, reading, math, you name it. But because they aren't strong in all skills, they aren't in AAP. But it sounds like there are also kids in AAP who aren't strong at everything either. So why the need to segregate students into one group or another? Why not make "advanced" classes fluid, for all kids to be able to excel at their strengths? The current system is so out of whack.
Because of the wide variance in quality of Level II and III services as delivered from school to school across the county. FCPS should be addressing fidelity of implementation of these services.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 22:36
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If she not a strong reader and can't write why is she in AAP?
+1 They must have a low bar. So what does that say about AAP?
Agh! Not the case. Scored very high (without prepping) on Cogat in math and logic and has an extroverted independent personality.
I wonder why on earth AAP isn't spread out among all the kids. For instance, in Gen Ed there are lots of kids who excel at writing, reading, math, you name it. But because they aren't strong in all skills, they aren't in AAP. But it sounds like there are also kids in AAP who aren't strong at everything either. So why the need to segregate students into one group or another? Why not make "advanced" classes fluid, for all kids to be able to excel at their strengths? The current system is so out of whack.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 21:38
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If she not a strong reader and can't write why is she in AAP?
+1 They must have a low bar. So what does that say about AAP?
Agh! Not the case. Scored very high (without prepping) on Cogat in math and logic and has an extroverted independent personality.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 21:35
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Anonymous wrote:Well, I'm not OP, but I could see this coming for us as well. DC is strong in math and logic, and pretty strong in reading --- but DC is NOT strong in writing. The tests they used to qualify DC for AAP involved logic, math and reading. The tests didn't require advanced writing skills. Now we are seeing how much writing is involved and it is causing DC to struggle in math (as well as every other subject) b/c they have to explain thinking in writing. DC is starting to dislike his favorite subject. Our base school has Adv. Math and there was not much writing involved... so this is not something we expected.
We are not giving up yet. For now, we expect there will be some discomfort with growth.
Just wanted to re-assure OP that she isn't alone.
(FWIW, DC reports that there is a child in the class that has had "breakdowns" at least three times already where he gets frustrated or afraid of something and starts having a crying fit on the floor! -- so, at least you aren't dealing with that situation OP. Good luck.)
Thanks, I appreciate the support.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 21:33
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Anonymous wrote:If she not a strong reader and can't write why is she in AAP?
OP here. Very strong in math and logic and high on verbal skills. He is reading chapter books, but not great compared to some of the others. They don't just look for academics, but also personality.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 20:44
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Well, I'm not OP, but I could see this coming for us as well. DC is strong in math and logic, and pretty strong in reading --- but DC is NOT strong in writing. The tests they used to qualify DC for AAP involved logic, math and reading. The tests didn't require advanced writing skills. Now we are seeing how much writing is involved and it is causing DC to struggle in math (as well as every other subject) b/c they have to explain thinking in writing. DC is starting to dislike his favorite subject. Our base school has Adv. Math and there was not much writing involved... so this is not something we expected.
We are not giving up yet. For now, we expect there will be some discomfort with growth.
Just wanted to re-assure OP that she isn't alone.
(FWIW, DC reports that there is a child in the class that has had "breakdowns" at least three times already where he gets frustrated or afraid of something and starts having a crying fit on the floor! -- so, at least you aren't dealing with that situation OP. Good luck.)
We are not giving up yet. For now, we expect there will be some discomfort with growth.
Just wanted to re-assure OP that she isn't alone.
(FWIW, DC reports that there is a child in the class that has had "breakdowns" at least three times already where he gets frustrated or afraid of something and starts having a crying fit on the floor! -- so, at least you aren't dealing with that situation OP. Good luck.)
Anonymous
09/16/2014 20:34
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Lots of kids have 'red flags' Dont move back, yet. Too early. Teachers want kids to all fit in the crayon box, and when one doesn't, they call a conference.
Lots of AAP kids are 2E - in reply to above poster
Lots of AAP kids are 2E - in reply to above poster
Anonymous
09/16/2014 20:04
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Anonymous wrote:If she not a strong reader and can't write why is she in AAP?
+1 They must have a low bar. So what does that say about AAP?
Anonymous
09/16/2014 19:49
Subject: Conference called for red flags
If she not a strong reader and can't write why is she in AAP?
Anonymous
09/16/2014 19:26
Subject: Conference called for red flags
***wouldn't sugges***
Anonymous
09/16/2014 19:26
Subject: Conference called for red flags
They probably would suggest moving them back this soon. I'd assume they need a few weeks to get back into the swing of things. My DC is always off the first few weeks.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 19:12
Subject: Conference called for red flags
They don't boot from AAP. They may suggest you move black, but they don't boot.
Anonymous
09/16/2014 18:47
Subject: Conference called for red flags
Only two weeks into school and already received a conference with teacher for "seeing some red flags with DD reading and writing and would like to discuss concerns and come up with solutions." She's never been a strong reader, but average at worst. Her writing does truly suck. Either they're really on top of things and want to help (great) or he's gonna get booted (not so great). Don't know why I'm so nervous and imagining the worst. Anyone else BTDT?