Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here ~ maybe "invasive" just means fast growing, spreading and providing coverage?

I can't believe how naive you are. No that's not what it means. Read the links,

"Invasive species are harmful to our natural resources (fish, wildlife, plants and overall ecosystem health) because they disrupt natural communities and ecological processes. This causes harm to the native species in that ecosystem because they are suddenly competing with a new species for the same resources (food, water, shelter, etc.). The invasive species can outcompete the native species for food and habitats and sometimes even cause their extinction. Even if the native species are not completely eliminated, the ecosystem often becomes much less diverse. A less diverse ecosystem is more susceptible to further disturbances such as diseases and natural disasters."

And no I'm not paranoid, 16:44. You're ignorant (and in denial.)

You people realize Kudzu isn't native to the US right? If you ever look outside the window while driving down the highway and see the vine that covering every tree, that's Kudzu--from JAPAN.

The monarch population is dropping b/c of lack of habitat:
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/01/31/monarch-butterfly-population

We have no Ash trees anymore b/c of the invasive Emerald Ash Borer helped along by an assh*le landscaper that broke the quarantine and transported infected plants:
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/dnrnews/infocus/emerald_ash_borer.asp

Oh, yes, and let's not forget the lovely Tiger Mosquito, an invasive that here to stay.

So if we plant a better diversity of natives, we'll get some of the wildlife (like birds and frogs) that would eat mosquitos.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here ~ maybe "invasive" just means fast growing, spreading and providing coverage?

I can't believe how naive you are. No that's not what it means. Read the links,

"Invasive species are harmful to our natural resources (fish, wildlife, plants and overall ecosystem health) because they disrupt natural communities and ecological processes. This causes harm to the native species in that ecosystem because they are suddenly competing with a new species for the same resources (food, water, shelter, etc.). The invasive species can outcompete the native species for food and habitats and sometimes even cause their extinction. Even if the native species are not completely eliminated, the ecosystem often becomes much less diverse. A less diverse ecosystem is more susceptible to further disturbances such as diseases and natural disasters."

And no I'm not paranoid, 16:44. You're ignorant (and in denial.)

You people realize Kudzu isn't native to the US right? If you ever look outside the window while driving down the highway and see the vine that covering every tree, that's Kudzu--from JAPAN.

The monarch population is dropping b/c of lack of habitat:
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/01/31/monarch-butterfly-population

We have no Ash trees anymore b/c of the invasive Emerald Ash Borer helped along by an assh*le landscaper that broke the quarantine and transported infected plants:
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/dnrnews/infocus/emerald_ash_borer.asp

Oh, yes, and let's not forget the lovely Tiger Mosquito, an invasive that here to stay.

So if we plant a better diversity of natives, we'll get some of the wildlife (like birds and frogs) that would eat mosquitos.

Np - this was extremely mean spirited and completely uncalled for. It seems PP was trying to find common ground between the two of you and be a peacemaker.

Anonymous wrote:

I can't believe how naive you are.

We're not talking about "Kudzu--from JAPAN", OP asked for suggestions and there was some discussion of pachysandra.

I can't believe how naive you are.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here ~ maybe "invasive" just means fast growing, spreading and providing coverage?

I can't believe how naive you are. No that's not what it means. Read the links,

"Invasive species are harmful to our natural resources (fish, wildlife, plants and overall ecosystem health) because they disrupt natural communities and ecological processes. This causes harm to the native species in that ecosystem because they are suddenly competing with a new species for the same resources (food, water, shelter, etc.). The invasive species can outcompete the native species for food and habitats and sometimes even cause their extinction. Even if the native species are not completely eliminated, the ecosystem often becomes much less diverse. A less diverse ecosystem is more susceptible to further disturbances such as diseases and natural disasters."

And no I'm not paranoid, 16:44. You're ignorant (and in denial.)

You people realize Kudzu isn't native to the US right? If you ever look outside the window while driving down the highway and see the vine that covering every tree, that's Kudzu--from JAPAN.

The monarch population is dropping b/c of lack of habitat:
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/01/31/monarch-butterfly-population

We have no Ash trees anymore b/c of the invasive Emerald Ash Borer helped along by an assh*le landscaper that broke the quarantine and transported infected plants:
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/dnrnews/infocus/emerald_ash_borer.asp

Oh, yes, and let's not forget the lovely Tiger Mosquito, an invasive that here to stay.

So if we plant a better diversity of natives, we'll get some of the wildlife (like birds and frogs) that would eat mosquitos.

Anonymous wrote:NP here ~ maybe "invasive" just means fast growing, spreading and providing coverage?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with pachysandra. Our neighborhood has many homes planted with these on sloping front yards. They grow quite slowly. Same goes for liriope. They do show up on some invasive lists, but some common sense helps.

Well apparently most people don't have the "common sense" you have, PP,

"Each year in America, more than 3 million acres are lost to invasive weeds…"
http://policy.audubon.org/how-invasive-species-threaten-habitat

Parks Services spends 100s of millions trying to quell invasive species:
http://www.fws.gov/invasives/faq.html#q2
http://www.nps.gov/olym/naturescience/invasiveplants.htm
http://www.nps.gov/plants/outreach/brochures/pdf/pca-invasiveplants.pdf

We lack biodiversity which compounds the lack of habitat and damage done by pesticides: http://www.plantanative.com/bringing-nature-home.html

The truth is people aren't responsible in not letting invasive wander out of their yard. Every little bit helps, so don't plant the invasive.

Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with pachysandra. Our neighborhood has many homes planted with these on sloping front yards. They grow quite slowly. Same goes for liriope. They do show up on some invasive lists, but some common sense helps.

Anonymous wrote:Pachysandra, though it will take time to grow. Once it fills in it is maintenance-free and will look nice and lush.
I have also seen vinca and liriope though they are not my personal favorites. I would wait till spring to plant, since this winter is supposed to be pretty cold.