Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
I'm the OP, a life-long UU, and a long-time member of Cedar Lane. Yes, the church sanctioned the posting - they asked members and friends to share the information. When I was growing up you are right, we didn't proselytize. Things changed about 10 years ago. The UUs began marketing themselves. I agree with the PP who says it's about time. They even put up a massive ad in Times Square (http://www.uuworld.org/news/articles/2381.shtml). At first I was with you and really uncomfortable about it. Then I realized that we have something really special and why hide it and not share how awesome it is!
Besides, it's not proselytizing -- there's nothing in that announcement promising or requiring anything that religions promise or require. UU's were holding their own, membership-wise, until a few years ago -- now they are losing members just as the mainline protestant churches are. Why is that? Certainly the UUs don't require believe in a bunch of supernatural propositions that many people just can't swallow these days.
I think UU suffers as other houses of worship do from trends in society that discourage community. The internet, busy work and school schedules that compete for our time, sports on Sunday, and a general sense that many have that we can worship or be spiritual on our own without attending a formal gathering with others. This is part of the post-modern world we live in.
I think more people are finding community elsewhere -- in their neighborhoods, for example, and are not as into "worshipping" as they have been in the past. UU churches do not involve worshipping and do promote community. I think with some good PR and a willingness to self-promote, they could be strong community centers in the future.
I disagree with "UU churches do not involve worshipping". I'm a member of All Souls church UU on 16th St and I think we do worship. At least, I feel like I am worshipping there. I can see that others may feel like they aren't being required to worship, but I think worship is happening. I would not be surprised if the same can be said at Cedar Lane.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
I'm the OP, a life-long UU, and a long-time member of Cedar Lane. Yes, the church sanctioned the posting - they asked members and friends to share the information. When I was growing up you are right, we didn't proselytize. Things changed about 10 years ago. The UUs began marketing themselves. I agree with the PP who says it's about time. They even put up a massive ad in Times Square (http://www.uuworld.org/news/articles/2381.shtml). At first I was with you and really uncomfortable about it. Then I realized that we have something really special and why hide it and not share how awesome it is!
Besides, it's not proselytizing -- there's nothing in that announcement promising or requiring anything that religions promise or require. UU's were holding their own, membership-wise, until a few years ago -- now they are losing members just as the mainline protestant churches are. Why is that? Certainly the UUs don't require believe in a bunch of supernatural propositions that many people just can't swallow these days.
I think UU suffers as other houses of worship do from trends in society that discourage community. The internet, busy work and school schedules that compete for our time, sports on Sunday, and a general sense that many have that we can worship or be spiritual on our own without attending a formal gathering with others. This is part of the post-modern world we live in.
I think more people are finding community elsewhere -- in their neighborhoods, for example, and are not as into "worshipping" as they have been in the past. UU churches do not involve worshipping and do promote community. I think with some good PR and a willingness to self-promote, they could be strong community centers in the future.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
I'm the OP, a life-long UU, and a long-time member of Cedar Lane. Yes, the church sanctioned the posting - they asked members and friends to share the information. When I was growing up you are right, we didn't proselytize. Things changed about 10 years ago. The UUs began marketing themselves. I agree with the PP who says it's about time. They even put up a massive ad in Times Square (http://www.uuworld.org/news/articles/2381.shtml). At first I was with you and really uncomfortable about it. Then I realized that we have something really special and why hide it and not share how awesome it is!
Besides, it's not proselytizing -- there's nothing in that announcement promising or requiring anything that religions promise or require. UU's were holding their own, membership-wise, until a few years ago -- now they are losing members just as the mainline protestant churches are. Why is that? Certainly the UUs don't require believe in a bunch of supernatural propositions that many people just can't swallow these days.
I think UU suffers as other houses of worship do from trends in society that discourage community. The internet, busy work and school schedules that compete for our time, sports on Sunday, and a general sense that many have that we can worship or be spiritual on our own without attending a formal gathering with others. This is part of the post-modern world we live in.
I think more people are finding community elsewhere -- in their neighborhoods, for example, and are not as into "worshipping" as they have been in the past. UU churches do not involve worshipping and do promote community. I think with some good PR and a willingness to self-promote, they could be strong community centers in the future.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
I'm the OP, a life-long UU, and a long-time member of Cedar Lane. Yes, the church sanctioned the posting - they asked members and friends to share the information. When I was growing up you are right, we didn't proselytize. Things changed about 10 years ago. The UUs began marketing themselves. I agree with the PP who says it's about time. They even put up a massive ad in Times Square (http://www.uuworld.org/news/articles/2381.shtml). At first I was with you and really uncomfortable about it. Then I realized that we have something really special and why hide it and not share how awesome it is!
Besides, it's not proselytizing -- there's nothing in that announcement promising or requiring anything that religions promise or require. UU's were holding their own, membership-wise, until a few years ago -- now they are losing members just as the mainline protestant churches are. Why is that? Certainly the UUs don't require believe in a bunch of supernatural propositions that many people just can't swallow these days.
I think UU suffers as other houses of worship do from trends in society that discourage community. The internet, busy work and school schedules that compete for our time, sports on Sunday, and a general sense that many have that we can worship or be spiritual on our own without attending a formal gathering with others. This is part of the post-modern world we live in.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
I'm the OP, a life-long UU, and a long-time member of Cedar Lane. Yes, the church sanctioned the posting - they asked members and friends to share the information. When I was growing up you are right, we didn't proselytize. Things changed about 10 years ago. The UUs began marketing themselves. I agree with the PP who says it's about time. They even put up a massive ad in Times Square (http://www.uuworld.org/news/articles/2381.shtml). At first I was with you and really uncomfortable about it. Then I realized that we have something really special and why hide it and not share how awesome it is!
Besides, it's not proselytizing -- there's nothing in that announcement promising or requiring anything that religions promise or require. UU's were holding their own, membership-wise, until a few years ago -- now they are losing members just as the mainline protestant churches are. Why is that? Certainly the UUs don't require believe in a bunch of supernatural propositions that many people just can't swallow these days.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
I'm the OP, a life-long UU, and a long-time member of Cedar Lane. Yes, the church sanctioned the posting - they asked members and friends to share the information. When I was growing up you are right, we didn't proselytize. Things changed about 10 years ago. The UUs began marketing themselves. I agree with the PP who says it's about time. They even put up a massive ad in Times Square (http://www.uuworld.org/news/articles/2381.shtml). At first I was with you and really uncomfortable about it. Then I realized that we have something really special and why hide it and not share how awesome it is!
Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
Anonymous wrote:For some reason this really bothers me. I was raised Unitarian and proselytizing of any kind is really not part of UU doctrine. I don't know why I am bothered exactly since you are just posting a notice , but I wonder who the poster is. Is this someone who is employed by the church or on the board? Was this advertisement sanctioned?
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