You know the Federation claimed to be all PC -- we have no poverty, no sexism, no need for money -- but that was really all crap. And the minute they sat down at the poker table, what were they playing for?

I've always thought the Holodeck was basically a giant death trap and liability windfall for Federation ambulance-chasers. It constantly malfunctions -- has it ever worked right? And it doesn't just fizzle or turn itself off. It whisks you off to another time period where you are endangered; it changes your life in some fundamental way. Folks, can you say "PRODUCT LIABILITY"?

Best thread ever! Where are the pp in my real life?

Guys, just stop, please, or my DH will take over my secret world of DCUM! : |)

Janeway does not suck. Chakotay sucks.

Anonymous wrote:I love you OP. what if you wanted to have some crazy wild deviant sex? Is that allowed?

there's inter-species fucking all the time in star trek - i think when you start fucking other species, deviance takes a whole new definition.

Anonymous wrote:I've always thought that the holodeck would so clearly be used nearly exclusively for porn (Exhibit A: the Internet) that the fact that it had any sort of respectability at all must mean there were significant restrictions on its use. But then Tom Paris advised Tuvok to have sex with a holoversion of his wife to relieve his pon farr. Maybe the rules were bent in the delta quadrant, or after Roddenberry died...

In another pon Farr episode tuvok tells Paris to have sex with B'lana when she has a pon far episode via mind meld. So which is worse the real thing or the holo deck version? I believe the holo deck version did not relieve all symptoms, so clearly there are some kinks.

However there are times when the holo deck has practical uses. TNG episode schisms comes to mind when the crew recreates the place they are kidnapped to in their sleep. Alexander and Worf have some good bonding moments in the holo deck. And worf's brother manages to transport without knowledge a pre warp society via the holo deck.

I've always thought that the holodeck would so clearly be used nearly exclusively for porn (Exhibit A: the Internet) that the fact that it had any sort of respectability at all must mean there were significant restrictions on its use. But then Tom Paris advised Tuvok to have sex with a holoversion of his wife to relieve his pon farr. Maybe the rules were bent in the delta quadrant, or after Roddenberry died...

Anonymous wrote:OP here: just watched an episode with two male crew members getting shoulder rubs from scantily clad young females. Briefly I wondered if there would be happy endings and what would Janeway think of that. Can only imagine what a horn dog like Kirk would have been up to in the holodeck.

P.S. Kirk didn't need a holo deck and Janeway sucks.

Okay OP I love you!
1. The episode where Barclay creates holo deck characters out of actual crew members. It is established that it is okay to do that and counselor Troi even says it might be healthy until of course she encounters the holo deck version of herself.

2. If people have sex on the holo deck would the man's (ahem deposit) still be there at the end of the program? I huess that is what the automated cleaners are for?

3. On DS9 quark's holo decks were basically advertised as pleasure palaces so I would imagine there were some bodily fluids... eWE!

4. I cannot stand when holo deck rules of physics are broken. In the first episode of TNG the door to the holo deck is open and captain Picard walks by and is struck by a snowball. I forgive this because it is the first episode but still...

5. The number of holo deck malfunctions that put the ship in danger makes me wonder why they allow it since it is for recreational purposes anyways.

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OP here: just watched an episode with two male crew members getting shoulder rubs from scantily clad young females. Briefly I wondered if there would be happy endings and what would Janeway think of that. Can only imagine what a horn dog like Kirk would have been up to in the holodeck.

Google some Star Trek holodeck fan fiction. The holodeck makes for an interesting literary playground.

I love you OP. what if you wanted to have some crazy wild deviant sex? Is that allowed?

I'm sure it's in the Prime Directive somewhere.

Do you think there would be regulations on what scenarios could be created in the holodeck? The Federation seems to be a pretty politically correct organization, would they allow someone to create story lines with the user raping or abusing someone.