Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:46     Subject: Re: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:
I wished the genocide threat was unlocked. It really needs to be discussed. How many Israelis hold these views and is it gaining traction?


If you look at it, the number of jews advocating genocide is very very small. The number of Israelis is smaller. Number of muslims, somewhat higher (because there are many more muslims than jews)....

Even the people that advocate for ethnic cleansing are not advocating for genocide...there is a difference between expulsion and murder. 9I am not advocating for either).

If you want genocide, look at ISIS, not Israel.

I really do not see a difference b/t ISIS and Israel. I just do think Israel would force someone to convert to the state religion. Israel expels the people from the country.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:44     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:The anti- Semitic card is play when there is no other response. Example-why does Israel target and kill children? Answer- you are ant-Semitic.


No, answer is they target militants -- the militants are attacking Israel in civilian garb...and the children are caught in the crossfire.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:41     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
The anti- Semitic card is play when there is no other response. Example-why does Israel target and kill children? Answer- you are ant-Semitic.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:37     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:I wished the genocide threat was unlocked. It really needs to be discussed. How many Israelis hold these views and is it gaining traction?


If you look at it, the number of jews advocating genocide is very very small. The number of Israelis is smaller. Number of muslims, somewhat higher (because there are many more muslims than jews)....

Even the people that advocate for ethnic cleansing are not advocating for genocide...there is a difference between expulsion and murder. 9I am not advocating for either).

If you want genocide, look at ISIS, not Israel.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:31     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes we should go back to simpler times when overt obtuse criticism of an entire race, religion, gender, and sexuality was accepted and commonplace. [/quote

ignorant and simplistic response - typical of many who can't handle dealing with uncomfortable situations

You realize your post is extreme, no?

So let's just enable specific groups to continue to embrace the role of victim b/c we're too afraid to have real conversations.


sar·casm
noun \?sär-?ka-z?m\

: the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny




stu·pid·i·ty


/st(y)o?o?pidit?/


noun

noun: stupidity; plural noun: stupidities





behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment.

"I can't believe my own stupidity"


synonyms: lack of intelligence, foolishness, denseness, brainlessness, ignorance, dull-wittedness, slow-wittedness, doltishness, slowness; More


informalthickness, dimness, dopiness

"he cursed their stupidity"

•

foolishness, folly, silliness, idiocy, brainlessness, senselessness, injudiciousness, ineptitude, inaneness, inanity, absurdity, ludicrousness, ridiculousness, fatuousness, madness, insanity, lunacy;

informalcraziness

"the stupidity of the question"



•

the quality of being stupid or unintelligent.

"a comedy of infantile stupidity"

Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:30     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what you mean. Everyone criticized Anthony Weiner for his stupid crotch shots on twitter. Nobody said those critics were anti-Semitic, did they? Because they were criticizing his actions, not what religion he may or may not practice.

If you are linking someone's actions to ethnicity, nationality, sex, or religion, you are right to get pushback.


If you criticize Israeli politics - and US support- you're viewed as an anti-Semite. This very point has been raised again and again on these boards.

Even if you try to ARGUE - which means you're discussing both sides using credible evidence that's balanced - you can't win b/c emotions overshadow reason.

same is true for the threads on Islamic covering
Every time a valid reason is raised, someone quotes from the Quran. Again, emotions win over reason.

We're not criticizing people; we're examining beliefs which MAY box people in.

And sadly, in many cases, there are blurred lines btw religious beliefs and politics.

Being too PC is dangerous, as it assumes we're to accept some poor behaviors from certain groups.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:16     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes we should go back to simpler times when overt obtuse criticism of an entire race, religion, gender, and sexuality was accepted and commonplace. [/quote

ignorant and simplistic response - typical of many who can't handle dealing with uncomfortable situations

You realize your post is extreme, no?

So let's just enable specific groups to continue to embrace the role of victim b/c we're too afraid to have real conversations.


sar·casm
noun \?sär-?ka-z?m\

: the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:14     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
I'm not sure what you mean. Everyone criticized Anthony Weiner for his stupid crotch shots on twitter. Nobody said those critics were anti-Semitic, did they? Because they were criticizing his actions, not what religion he may or may not practice.

If you are linking someone's actions to ethnicity, nationality, sex, or religion, you are right to get pushback.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 10:13     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:Yes we should go back to simpler times when overt obtuse criticism of an entire race, religion, gender, and sexuality was accepted and commonplace. [/quote

ignorant and simplistic response - typical of many who can't handle dealing with uncomfortable situations

You realize your post is extreme, no?

So let's just enable specific groups to continue to embrace the role of victim b/c we're too afraid to have real conversations.

Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 09:55     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Yes we should go back to simpler times when overt obtuse criticism of an entire race, religion, gender, and sexuality was accepted and commonplace.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 09:42     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
I wished the genocide threat was unlocked. It really needs to be discussed. How many Israelis hold these views and is it gaining traction?
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2014 08:40     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Anonymous wrote:Because that's a productive use of time? Are you bettering humanity with this question? Are you adding any value?


I think difficult discussions are productive if they're handled well.

We have all sorts of issues communicating across racial, ethnic and religious lines. While we stress being PC, political correctness often leaves little room for growth, as there's a stigma against bringing up uncomfortable situations to work through.

It's best to "tolerate" a situation or a comment and then move on. But tolerance doesn't mean acceptance.

So we're back to square 1.

What's the sense?

I have to agree with the OP of this thread.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 22:45     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
PP????
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2014 19:36     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
Because that's a productive use of time? Are you bettering humanity with this question? Are you adding any value?
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2014 19:28     Subject: I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.
It isn't only about Jews, but other groups as well. Sometimes when you say something about a person who happens to be from a certain group, you are called all kinds of racist and insensitive. I am not the OP of that thread, but to an extent I agree.