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Anonymous wrote:I would write to Scott Pearson, the ED of the PCSB. I would make the point that now that people are paying for line standees, YY should no longer have the choice to do an in-person time stamp, and that might give them enough incentive to join the common lottery.

Even though I got an awful lottery number this year, I still think it's best for all schools to join it.

I thought that charter law allows schools to hold their own lottery, and PCSB has no legal standing to require participation in the common lottery.

For what it's worth, I predict that YY will join the common lottery, this coming year or a bit later. But a school's ability to make its own decisions is a central part of the charter school movement.

These are two different statements.

The statute defines the lottery process, under which much is silent. PCSB has no statutory authority to require participation in the common lottery, even if they strongly urge them in that direction.

Anonymous wrote:I would write to Scott Pearson, the ED of the PCSB. I would make the point that now that people are paying for line standees, YY should no longer have the choice to do an in-person time stamp, and that might give them enough incentive to join the common lottery.

Even though I got an awful lottery number this year, I still think it's best for all schools to join it.

I thought that charter law allows schools to hold their own lottery, and PCSB has no legal standing to require participation in the common lottery.

For what it's worth, I predict that YY will join the common lottery, this coming year or a bit later. But a school's ability to make its own decisions is a central part of the charter school movement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YY certainly doesn't care what you think, and neither does DC Charter. We've written letters asking for ethnic Chinese and native speakers in their administration (signed by members of various local Chinese community organizations) and nobody replies.

Illegal. Perhaps your efforts might be better spent to see that some native speakers have teaching and administrative degrees and experience. When there are openings, those folks can apply.

This is the true, absolute bottom line. People like the "Hire ethnic Chinese speakers in administration" poster want everyone to break the rules for what they want, but otherwise want the rules to apply.

my kid is at another highly regarded charter school so I have no dog in this fight. I completely agree with the Chinese community that is frustrated about the lack of a Chinese leadership and a Chinese immersion school. I also agree with their frustrations that they cannot get preference. And any other school with Chinese immersion. it is known that a two way model works the best. So why on earth we have a generic lottery whereby native speakers are not given preference is beyond me.

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Anonymous wrote:YY certainly doesn't care what you think, and neither does DC Charter. We've written letters asking for ethnic Chinese and native speakers in their administration (signed by members of various local Chinese community organizations) and nobody replies.

Illegal. Perhaps your efforts might be better spent to see that some native speakers have teaching and administrative degrees and experience. When there are openings, those folks can apply.

This is the true, absolute bottom line. People like the "Hire ethnic Chinese speakers in administration" poster want everyone to break the rules for what they want, but otherwise want the rules to apply.

I commend the parent who paid a line-stander. Perhaps he absolutely couldn't afford to take off of work and decided it was cheaper to pay someone a few dollars and not call out from work. Kudos to this parent. Parents who give a damn about their kids will do whatever it takes to get them ahead. While haters watch their kids do without, some parents go to bat all the way and their kids benefit. Such are the brakes of life!

Anonymous wrote:YY certainly doesn't care what you think, and neither does DC Charter. We've written letters asking for ethnic Chinese and native speakers in their administration (signed by members of various local Chinese community organizations) and nobody replies.

YY has and has had adminitrations who have helped the school grow to be the success it is today. A lot of people have opinions (some of them understandable) about what THEY think the school should do and be. But at the end of the day, they've proven that whatever they've valued in Administrators has gotten the school to an exceptional place. Not saying it doesn't have further to go, but it's accomplished a tremendous amount (IB status, amazing facilities in an area where permanent space is ridiculously hard for charters to find, good (by comparison) test scores, etc).

Never mind all the things you want that aren't legal for a charter to do.

You are free to express these desires, but you also didn't successfully start and open and now run the school, so once you express your desires, you can't be too sad when those who did the hardest work make their own decisions about what advice to take, what advice to try to take (whether it works out or not), and what advice to leave aside.

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Anonymous wrote:The research supports that two-way immersion is the best method for kids to learn another language. So, the stupid one lottery for all, which counters the established researched should be booted out. Yu Ying can't do this, so they give preference to people based upon waiting in the line. This is the only way they can have any control in the process whatsoever. Until educators with common sense change rules that counter the valid research, I think the line-standing should continue. If you're mad about someone paying, why don't you do the same or get your lazy entitled butt up earlier than the line standers? I don't understand haters that complain when they could do exactly the same thing, especially in light of stupidity on the part of the lottery system.

Actually, most normal, middle income people who have jobs cannot do exactly the same thing. The person who was paid to stand in line got there the day before in order to be in first place. I know, because I was around the 12th person in line and questioned the people ahead of me and questioned the person who was paid to stand in line. At any rate, the Yu Ying lottery is random. The time stamp is only related to your place on the wait list so everyone who applies has an equal shot of getting accepted in round 1.

Oh, bullshit! Anyone pressed about Yu Ying got their asses up and stood in line. The woe-is-me that you couldn't do the same is total baloney. Also, the fakeness that you couldn't pay a line-stander is also bull. You give a bum $5 and they'll stand in line all night. Let me guess, you can't afford $5. But, you can afford to be on DCUM all day? That's your problem. Get a job. You'll then have the $5 for the line-stander. But, by all means, please stop hating!

Anonymous wrote:The research supports that two-way immersion is the best method for kids to learn another language. So, the stupid one lottery for all, which counters the established researched should be booted out. Yu Ying can't do this, so they give preference to people based upon waiting in the line. This is the only way they can have any control in the process whatsoever. Until educators with common sense change rules that counter the valid research, I think the line-standing should continue. If you're mad about someone paying, why don't you do the same or get your lazy entitled butt up earlier than the line standers? I don't understand haters that complain when they could do exactly the same thing, especially in light of stupidity on the part of the lottery system.

Actually, most normal, middle income people who have jobs cannot do exactly the same thing. The person who was paid to stand in line got there the day before in order to be in first place. I know, because I was around the 12th person in line and questioned the people ahead of me and questioned the person who was paid to stand in line. At any rate, the Yu Ying lottery is random. The time stamp is only related to your place on the wait list so everyone who applies has an equal shot of getting accepted in round 1.

Do you think this is the case with ranked preferences PP? Honestly so few people are getting into YY off the wait list these days I don't think this continues to make sense.

The research supports that two-way immersion is the best method for kids to learn another language. So, the stupid one lottery for all, which counters the established researched should be booted out. Yu Ying can't do this, so they give preference to people based upon waiting in the line. This is the only way they can have any control in the process whatsoever. Until educators with common sense change rules that counter the valid research, I think the line-standing should continue. If you're mad about someone paying, why don't you do the same or get your lazy entitled butt up earlier than the line standers? I don't understand haters that complain when they could do exactly the same thing, especially in light of stupidity on the part of the lottery system.

I would write to Scott Pearson, the ED of the PCSB. I would make the point that now that people are paying for line standees, YY should no longer have the choice to do an in-person time stamp, and that might give them enough incentive to join the common lottery.

Even though I got an awful lottery number this year, I still think it's best for all schools to join it.

Anonymous wrote:YY certainly doesn't care what you think, and neither does DC Charter. We've written letters asking for ethnic Chinese and native speakers in their administration (signed by members of various local Chinese community organizations) and nobody replies.

Illegal. Perhaps your efforts might be better spent to see that some native speakers have teaching and administrative degrees and experience. When there are openings, those folks can apply.

Anonymous wrote:YY certainly doesn't care what you think, and neither does DC Charter. We've written letters asking for ethnic Chinese and native speakers in their administration (signed by members of various local Chinese community organizations) and nobody replies.

No one has replied because it is illegal for a public entity to hire on the basis of ethnicity.

If OP is concerned about the line waiting practices, one can contact the Board of Ethics.

If the OP is a parent, I'd suggest the PTA.

YY certainly doesn't care what you think, and neither does DC Charter. We've written letters asking for ethnic Chinese and native speakers in their administration (signed by members of various local Chinese community organizations) and nobody replies.

I think the ranked preference of the common lottery addresses their need to ensure that the people who get in are committed to the program.