I can't believe people pay thousands to see Beyonce in concert! Crazy.

Mariah is talent.

Beyonce is a performer. She performs. She takes Diva to a new level. She has better hair and makeup people and publicists. She is married to someone who knows the business from a different perspective, and is not afraid to whore it. So yeah, I guess that makes her more savvy.

Anonymous wrote:Mariah refuses to age with her audience. It's sad.

It really is. Mariah has talent yet she dresses like a $2 hooker. I dont understand why someone like Mariah who has got talent and all that continues to attempt to cater to the teen crowd. Those teen kids are not feeling her. She should put some clothes on and sing.

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Anonymous wrote:Mariah refuses to age with her audience. It's sad.

pathetic even and this is coming from someone who is a total Mariah stan.

there's no money to be made in adult contemporary or urban AC market i guess. she had more mature albums when she first hit the scene and in her 20s than now.

same w/Mary J. - its like they're aging backwards. i don't need to hear mariah doing a collab w/gucci mane \

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BTW I haven't liked a Beyonce song since the "Dangerously in Love" record. I find the new songs especially insipid.

+ a million! Her recent album is filfth being pushed off as genius.

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Anonymous wrote:Mariah refuses to age with her audience. It's sad.

pathetic even and this is coming from someone who is a total Mariah stan.

there's no money to be made in adult contemporary or urban AC market i guess. she had more mature albums when she first hit the scene and in her 20s than now.

same w/Mary J. - its like they're aging backwards. i don't need to hear mariah doing a collab w/gucci mane \

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BTW I haven't liked a Beyonce song since the "Dangerously in Love" record. I find the new songs especially insipid.

Anonymous wrote:Mariah refuses to age with her audience. It's sad.

pathetic even and this is coming from someone who is a total Mariah stan.

there's no money to be made in adult contemporary or urban AC market i guess. she had more mature albums when she first hit the scene and in her 20s than now.

same w/Mary J. - its like they're aging backwards. i don't need to hear mariah doing a collab w/gucci mane \

Mariah refuses to age with her audience. It's sad.

Sex sells, so does female empowerment. Her dad knew this and capitalized. She is where she is mainly because of him. Sans the nose job, the weave and the body work, she's still pretty, but not as beautiful. Her dad was a genius. Hooks like " you can't pay my bills", " all the women, who independent, and songs like survivor, single ladies, etc is why she is the machine she is today.

I honestly dislike Beyonce love her music, but dislike her as a person. From day one she's came across as self centered and fake. I've never seen her as genuine. I don't even really care much for celebrities honestly.

Anonymous wrote:Bey is famous because she is the whole package. Primarily a dancer, but she sings as well as most pop stars and acts as well as most starlets AND she has the media savvy to go with it. Add on top of that her brand (powerful, positive, female-centric) and she strikes a cultural chord in a way that someone who is a talented singer, but not multi-talented or brand-savvy (looking at you, Mariah) just doesn't.

Yes to everything except the acting.

I think they are all talented, but when in comes to voice Mariah is my absolute favorite.

^I don't agree. For as big as the Beyonce machine is, she doesn't resonate. She has no hook.

She has a lot of publicity but doesn 't have star power once all of that blows over. When you hear a new Beyonce song, or see her in concert clips or in print there just isn't that *thing* that draw that bit of special.

She feels like a part in the machine - Destiny's Child, collaborations, Jay-Z's other half, mom to 'Jay-Z and Beyonce's kid'. I don't feel like she's a standalone artist. Maybe she spreads herself too thin. I don't know, it's hard to define.

Bey is famous because she is the whole package. Primarily a dancer, but she sings as well as most pop stars and acts as well as most starlets AND she has the media savvy to go with it. Add on top of that her brand (powerful, positive, female-centric) and she strikes a cultural chord in a way that someone who is a talented singer, but not multi-talented or brand-savvy (looking at you, Mariah) just doesn't.

Mariah has more vocal range. Beyoncé's songs are much better, and she's smarter and savvier.

I'm a millenial (though on the older end of the generation) and Beyonce is such a shitty singer compared to Mariah Carey and Toni Braxton.

I was listening to some old Mariah and Toni this weekend and the difference is very stark.

Skills, Talent, and ability transcends age - beyonce is just a poor artist.