Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 10:28     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Learn to be a heating/ac guy. Start your own company . Join the 1 percent. When the heat / ac goes out doctors she'll out 10 grand in a heartbeat.

Same with
Plumbing
Electric
Garage door repair
Generator installation
Auto repair
Small business phone system diagnostics
Small business computer network setup and maintenance

All of those jobs can easily make you rich easier than any other way with determination, competence and dependability

I wish I'd gone into auto repair instead of law. I love working with my hands. My parents forced me into law. My Dad is a lawyer, we to Ivy for undergrad for and for law, as did I as a legacy. Dad got me my first job in law, but I really really hate it. I mske decent mone, can't complain about that but now I am married, my wife has expectations of a certain lifestyle and my parents have certain expectations too. It really sucks!




Mental Note: Don't marry a gold digger.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 10:20     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:It's nice to have the fancy-schmancy degree and to have learned for education's sake.

Not financially possible for all, but a worthy goal regardless of eventual occupation.
Oh, please. Of course, I know there's nothing wrong with my fancy-schmancy degree otherwise I wouldn't have put in the time nor would anyone else. Don't start an argument where there is none.

Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 10:13     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
It's nice to have the fancy-schmancy degree and to have learned for education's sake.

Not financially possible for all, but a worthy goal regardless of eventual occupation.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 10:00     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:Learn to be a heating/ac guy. Start your own company . Join the 1 percent. When the heat / ac goes out doctors she'll out 10 grand in a heartbeat.

Same with
Plumbing
Electric
Garage door repair
Generator installation
Auto repair
Small business phone system diagnostics
Small business computer network setup and maintenance

All of those jobs can easily make you rich easier than any other way with determination, competence and dependability




My plumber who works for a major company and does "side" work told me last week that he is now ready to break off and start his own 'one man' enterprise. Amassing tons of side work and referrals, he's ready. And I KNOW he makes far more than I do with my fancy-schmancy degree.

My mechanic has a shop in D.C. that is always packed. If you don't get there by 7:30a to get in line, you can forget it unless you made an appointment in advance.

I know my plumber and mechanic get the last laugh when they're looked down on because they don't have the fancy degree.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 09:14     Subject: Re:The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:Here is the breakdown of my siblings (4/5 have at least a 4 year degree)

1.) Teacher with masters = 80k
2.) CPA (works 30 hours)= 100k
3.) Nurse then became CRNA = 220k
4.) Pharmacist= 110k
5.) Electrician = 400k

My youngest brother is the electrician and he actually started to acquire the skill when he got kicked out of high school and had to go to an alternative school. He then had an apprenticeship and started working for a small business. He then went out and spent most of his 20s working for a huge corporation doing building maintenance before opening his own business at the age of 32. He is 44 now and has 110 employees. Trades are good OP. College is not the cookie cutter answer to all.


Umm he's a business owner not an electrician. It's like saying cpa 1 million cto of handr block.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 09:10     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Sales with a associate, 350k
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 08:59     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS's AP History teacher was a lawyer, but loves history and has always wanted to teach. He says it was the best decision to change careers.


My ds also has a former lawyer as a middle school history teacher. UVA undergrad to Harvard Law, and absolutely hated being a lawyer.


Another lawyer here. If I ever switched careers, education is where I would go, too. I think a lot of lawyers enjoy academics and the transition for many makes sense.


I quit management consulting to teach middle school math. I've never been happier.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 08:56     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS's AP History teacher was a lawyer, but loves history and has always wanted to teach. He says it was the best decision to change careers.


My ds also has a former lawyer as a middle school history teacher. UVA undergrad to Harvard Law, and absolutely hated being a lawyer.


Another lawyer here. If I ever switched careers, education is where I would go, too. I think a lot of lawyers enjoy academics and the transition for many makes sense.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 08:55     Subject: Re:The alternative to a degree is...
Here is the breakdown of my siblings (4/5 have at least a 4 year degree)

1.) Teacher with masters = 80k
2.) CPA (works 30 hours)= 100k
3.) Nurse then became CRNA = 220k
4.) Pharmacist= 110k
5.) Electrician = 400k

My youngest brother is the electrician and he actually started to acquire the skill when he got kicked out of high school and had to go to an alternative school. He then had an apprenticeship and started working for a small business. He then went out and spent most of his 20s working for a huge corporation doing building maintenance before opening his own business at the age of 32. He is 44 now and has 110 employees. Trades are good OP. College is not the cookie cutter answer to all.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2014 08:49     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:DS's AP History teacher was a lawyer, but loves history and has always wanted to teach. He says it was the best decision to change careers.


My ds also has a former lawyer as a middle school history teacher. UVA undergrad to Harvard Law, and absolutely hated being a lawyer.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 09:44     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
DS's AP History teacher was a lawyer, but loves history and has always wanted to teach. He says it was the best decision to change careers.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 09:38     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Learn to be a heating/ac guy. Start your own company . Join the 1 percent. When the heat / ac goes out doctors she'll out 10 grand in a heartbeat.

Same with
Plumbing
Electric
Garage door repair
Generator installation
Auto repair
Small business phone system diagnostics
Small business computer network setup and maintenance

All of those jobs can easily make you rich easier than any other way with determination, competence and dependability

I wish I'd gone into auto repair instead of law. I love working with my hands. My parents forced me into law. My Dad is a lawyer, we to Ivy for undergrad for and for law, as did I as a legacy. Dad got me my first job in law, but I really really hate it. I mske decent mone, can't complain about that but now I am married, my wife has expectations of a certain lifestyle and my parents have certain expectations too. It really sucks!





Life is too short. Isn't there some way you can do what you enjoy instead? I was a lawyer and got out, and I'm so much happier now.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 09:34     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Anonymous wrote:Learn to be a heating/ac guy. Start your own company . Join the 1 percent. When the heat / ac goes out doctors she'll out 10 grand in a heartbeat.

Same with
Plumbing
Electric
Garage door repair
Generator installation
Auto repair
Small business phone system diagnostics
Small business computer network setup and maintenance

All of those jobs can easily make you rich easier than any other way with determination, competence and dependability

I wish I'd gone into auto repair instead of law. I love working with my hands. My parents forced me into law. My Dad is a lawyer, we to Ivy for undergrad for and for law, as did I as a legacy. Dad got me my first job in law, but I really really hate it. I mske decent mone, can't complain about that but now I am married, my wife has expectations of a certain lifestyle and my parents have certain expectations too. It really sucks!


Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 08:43     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
Learn to be a heating/ac guy. Start your own company . Join the 1 percent. When the heat / ac goes out doctors she'll out 10 grand in a heartbeat.

Same with
Plumbing
Electric
Garage door repair
Generator installation
Auto repair
Small business phone system diagnostics
Small business computer network setup and maintenance

All of those jobs can easily make you rich easier than any other way with determination, competence and dependability




Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 08:01     Subject: The alternative to a degree is...
With Americas's manufacturing renaissance those who do not want or need to go on to a four year college have opportunities to earn a middle class income with the right training and education. We need to do more to develop the education pipeline for middle skill jobs.

See this report from APM Markerplace. http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/preparing-middle-class-workers-middle-skill-jobs