Anonymous
Post 03/19/2014 10:27     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
Anonymous wrote:I predict van ness will be a hotspot for those in bound for amidon Bowen both low and high SES


Amidon Bowen is a similar situation to what will happen at Navy YArd. The overwhelming majority of kids at Amidon Bowen come from the public housing in SW (over 900 units). There is a limited number of row houses/large market rate apartments for families in SW outside of public housing. Amidon Bowen is also under enrolled. Depending on the dofferent programs offered at Van Ness, you may have a few SW residents try to switch but if you think its going to be a signficant number of high SES families, that would be incorrect.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2014 09:55     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
Anonymous wrote:I think SWS is a better example, current city-wide draw notwithstanding.


Just wondering what you mean by the above. Is that a good thing? Would you rather have your kid in SWS over Maury or Brent? Or are you saying that SWS is a tier below? FWIW my fave among the three is SWS, though there are lots of unknowns in the expansion, so in that way it is like Van Ness.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 22:48     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
Anonymous wrote:I think it will be very good. I think it has potential to be as good or better than Maury and Brent.


Just curious as to why you believe that it may be as good or better than Janney and Brent, taking into account a sizable low SES population, whether IB public housing or OOB. No doubt there will be some high SES OOB students.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 19:29     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
I predict van ness will be a hotspot for those in bound for amidon Bowen both low and high SES
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 19:05     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
Will probably be popular with students inbounds for Amidon-Bowen too.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 17:57     Subject: Re:Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
I think that Van Ness will have the same effect as the other city wide schools if it doesn't really have enough in boundary families to fill it. Logan and SWS are citywide but because of the sibling preference and neighborhood draw (more popular among capitol folks) it has the feel of a neighborhood school.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 17:04     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
I'd bet the school is great, but in three years it will still be a new school and one that presumably only is partially full just because it doesn't start out as PK3-5, so comparing it to Brent or Maury wouldn't make sense. If I nearby, I'd be excited about it and would just want to make sure that DCPS gives it boundaries and doesn't try to make it a citywide school.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 16:56     Subject: Re:Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
Anonymous wrote:One smart thing that DC did when they planned to redevelop that area was to ensure that it would develop mixed income housing at 75% market rate, 25% affordable housing split. This does not take into account all of the 100% market rate apartments that are springing up everywhere too. I think when the area is finished being built out, affordable housing will probably make up 15% of the housing in the area. Those numbers make it likely that the neighborhood elementary school will most likely be representative of the demographics of the neighborhood. If Van Ness Elementary can have a FARM rate of 15% of less, it will be one of the top performing elementary schools in Washington, DC.


I just don't think 15% or less is possible. Yes there are a lot of new apts but probably 80% of them are one bedroom, there are a few two bedroom units. By and large, these developments do not house a lot of kids. The new townhomes are full of kids but they are proably 15% of the total new housing coming to the area. So when you look at housing type to family size, then its more likely that the public housing will be the biggest generator of future kids. Unless they expand the boudnary to north of the freeway and start pulling in from the houses around Garfield park etc...but then you are encroaching on Brent territory.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 15:14     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
I think it will be very good. I think it has potential to be as good or better than Maury and Brent.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 14:50     Subject: Re:Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
One smart thing that DC did when they planned to redevelop that area was to ensure that it would develop mixed income housing at 75% market rate, 25% affordable housing split. This does not take into account all of the 100% market rate apartments that are springing up everywhere too. I think when the area is finished being built out, affordable housing will probably make up 15% of the housing in the area. Those numbers make it likely that the neighborhood elementary school will most likely be representative of the demographics of the neighborhood. If Van Ness Elementary can have a FARM rate of 15% of less, it will be one of the top performing elementary schools in Washington, DC.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 14:45     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
I think it will be pretty good but not on par with Brent or Janney for a long time. Yes there are a lot of affluent people in the area with young kids but people seem to forget that there are still over 400 units of public housing that are going to be rebuilt in the same area (I think on the empty lots adjacent to canal park). There will still be a lot of high needs kids in the school coming from very challenging situations...so in that sense it won't be like Brent/Janney. Maybe more of a Tyler or Maury?
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 13:51     Subject: Re:Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
Van Ness Elementary doesn't have a boundary now, since the school isn't open right now. The plan is to give Van Ness Elementary a boundary once the new boundaries for DCPS are decided upon. That being said, in my opinion, the boundary for Van Ness Elementary will most likely be South Capitol Street to the West, the SE/SW freeway to the North, and the Anacostia River to the South.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 13:25     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
What are the boundaries for that school? Doesn't seem like there's enough children/housing in the nearby area to fill a school.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 13:18     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
I think SWS is a better example, current city-wide draw notwithstanding.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2014 13:16     Subject: Will Van Ness Elementary School be on the same level as Brent/Maury in 3 years?
Van Ness Elementary School near the Navy Yard is slated to open for the 2015 - 2016 school year. With all the new development (Whole Foods, Harris Teeter, etc) and housing springing up every year, how likely will Van Ness become a high performing, high demand elementary school like Brent & Maury? My take on this is that it will open with limited grades (PS3, PK4, K), and and a grade every year until it becomes a full fledged elementary school. I think this will allow the school to grow just as the community is growing, and that it will most likely being just as good (or even better) than Brent & Maury.