Anonymous
02/26/2014 14:03
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
My question for the teacher is do the students have the opportunity to earn a ES? How would that appear on a typical classroom assignment?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 13:46
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Anonymous wrote:Isn't "P" proficient? If she scored 100% she would get ES. Isn't that motivation for her -- to get ES?
At our school anything wrong in spelling gets you an "I" all correct is a "P". Love the consistency!!!
Anonymous
02/26/2014 13:02
Subject: Re:A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Anonymous wrote:While I cannot wait for the school system to change (provide pathways for appropriate challenge for all MCPS students) despite my protests I am resigned to use the Elementary School as a day care center where my children socialize with their friends under adult supervision. After a number of years in the MCPS system I'd be a fool if I trusted the school and their assessment metric for educating my children.
Unprovoked, all my children will affirm they have learned little in school (and only encountered one inspirational teacher in cumulative 10 years in the system -- 3 kids) and credit what they have learned outside the classroom (Kahn, AoPS, MOOC, parent instruction) as the reason for their acclaimed success and inside and outside of school.
As a reflect I can honestly, however regretfully, admit the MCPS school system (in the early and primary elementary and middle school years) has served as a day care center for all my children. Their education and intellectual stimulation was provided outside the system because MCPS failed to provide this for our own particular children.
Two out of 3 of the kids did wait to avail themselves of HGC and middle magnet opportunities but these programs were uneven -- largely weak in the humanities, languages, writing, and art.
Given your attitude towards MCPS, I am grateful that your children were not in my children's classes.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 13:00
Subject: Re:A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Anonymous wrote:yes, I agree completely as well.
I have given up on discerning any useful information from the report card - with the exception of the standardized test scores. That at least tells me something.
My 4th grade DD constantly misspells 1-2 words on her spelling test every week. And every week she receives a P. I know she is capable (with some more effort) of spelling 100% correctly. But how to motivate?
And for those who say that she should somehow be intrinsically motivated to do better (and not by grades), I say, get. real. Grades motivated me all the way through high school, to a top college, to a top law school, to a top law firm. What's wrong with being motivated to achieve a certain grade to achieve a goal?
I don't know. How do you motivate her to do other things that she doesn't want to do but you want her to do?
And I don't think that there's anything wrong with being motivated by grades. I do think that there is something wrong with being motivated only by grades, especially in elementary school. If you don't have intrinsic motivation, then you go to your top college to your top law school to your top law firm to...what?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 12:57
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
If MCPS wanted to get rid of the ES altogether, I wouldn't object.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:54
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Anonymous wrote:That doesn't make sense. The HGC is very focused on writing and language generally.
It is possible that her kids are so advanced that no school will adequately serve their needs. Maybe Davidson Academy can. But they are faraway.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:52
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
bad typo ... sorry. be break -> be broken.
Anonymous wrote:Your question can be greatly improved. In fact, it should be break into two.
Will this change motivate everyone? Possibly no.
- We all know that someone becomes a president or an Olympic champion. Will all of us pursue these goals?
Will some kids get motivated? My answer is yes.
- Do you see there is a POTUS and a number of Olympic champions?
Anonymous wrote:Isn't "P" proficient? If she scored 100% she would get ES. Isn't that motivation for her -- to get ES?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:51
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
That doesn't make sense. The HGC is very focused on writing and language generally.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:51
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Your question can be greatly improved. In fact, it should be break into two.
Will this change motivate everyone? Possibly no.
- We all know that someone becomes a president or an Olympic champion. Will all of us pursue these goals?
Will some kids get motivated? My answer is yes.
- Do you see there is a POTUS and a number of Olympic champions?
Will this change motivate everyone? Possibly no.
- We all know that someone becomes a president or an Olympic champion. Will all of us pursue these goals?
Will some kids get motivated? My answer is yes.
- Do you see there is a POTUS and a number of Olympic champions?
Anonymous wrote:Isn't "P" proficient? If she scored 100% she would get ES. Isn't that motivation for her -- to get ES?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:49
Subject: Re:A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
While I cannot wait for the school system to change (provide pathways for appropriate challenge for all MCPS students) despite my protests I am resigned to use the Elementary School as a day care center where my children socialize with their friends under adult supervision. After a number of years in the MCPS system I'd be a fool if I trusted the school and their assessment metric for educating my children.
Unprovoked, all my children will affirm they have learned little in school (and only encountered one inspirational teacher in cumulative 10 years in the system -- 3 kids) and credit what they have learned outside the classroom (Kahn, AoPS, MOOC, parent instruction) as the reason for their acclaimed success and inside and outside of school.
As a reflect I can honestly, however regretfully, admit the MCPS school system (in the early and primary elementary and middle school years) has served as a day care center for all my children. Their education and intellectual stimulation was provided outside the system because MCPS failed to provide this for our own particular children.
Two out of 3 of the kids did wait to avail themselves of HGC and middle magnet opportunities but these programs were uneven -- largely weak in the humanities, languages, writing, and art.
Unprovoked, all my children will affirm they have learned little in school (and only encountered one inspirational teacher in cumulative 10 years in the system -- 3 kids) and credit what they have learned outside the classroom (Kahn, AoPS, MOOC, parent instruction) as the reason for their acclaimed success and inside and outside of school.
As a reflect I can honestly, however regretfully, admit the MCPS school system (in the early and primary elementary and middle school years) has served as a day care center for all my children. Their education and intellectual stimulation was provided outside the system because MCPS failed to provide this for our own particular children.
Two out of 3 of the kids did wait to avail themselves of HGC and middle magnet opportunities but these programs were uneven -- largely weak in the humanities, languages, writing, and art.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:47
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Anonymous wrote:Isn't "P" proficient? If she scored 100% she would get ES. Isn't that motivation for her -- to get ES?
Did you read anything on DCUM lately? 100% is not going to automatically translate into ES. Mastery of above grade stuff is not automatically translate into ES. The only thing reliably translate into ES is if the kid write a tedious paragraph or two or three about something obvious. That is the above and beyond they are looking for.
Good read the thread about what will happen to 2.0 in a few years. A current MCPS teacher admitted that was how she was instructed to do.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:45
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Driving all students towards the goal of straight P students is an amazing idea.
Questions are:
1) Will this make our society a great society in the future?
2) Will this make sure that our kids can survive and be successful in future global competition?
3) Is this the best that our current/future education system can do?
Questions are:
1) Will this make our society a great society in the future?
2) Will this make sure that our kids can survive and be successful in future global competition?
3) Is this the best that our current/future education system can do?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:23
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
Isn't "P" proficient? If she scored 100% she would get ES. Isn't that motivation for her -- to get ES?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:10
Subject: Re:A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
yes, I agree completely as well.
I have given up on discerning any useful information from the report card - with the exception of the standardized test scores. That at least tells me something.
My 4th grade DD constantly misspells 1-2 words on her spelling test every week. And every week she receives a P. I know she is capable (with some more effort) of spelling 100% correctly. But how to motivate?
And for those who say that she should somehow be intrinsically motivated to do better (and not by grades), I say, get. real. Grades motivated me all the way through high school, to a top college, to a top law school, to a top law firm. What's wrong with being motivated to achieve a certain grade to achieve a goal?
I have given up on discerning any useful information from the report card - with the exception of the standardized test scores. That at least tells me something.
My 4th grade DD constantly misspells 1-2 words on her spelling test every week. And every week she receives a P. I know she is capable (with some more effort) of spelling 100% correctly. But how to motivate?
And for those who say that she should somehow be intrinsically motivated to do better (and not by grades), I say, get. real. Grades motivated me all the way through high school, to a top college, to a top law school, to a top law firm. What's wrong with being motivated to achieve a certain grade to achieve a goal?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 10:53
Subject: A great post about the grading system under 2.0.
http://oilf.blogspot.com/2014/02/aiming-for-mediocrity.html
I agree with it completely. But she is a much better writer.
I agree with it completely. But she is a much better writer.